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Ron Conte 4th August 2007 11:52 AM

God is
 
God is One Divine Eternal Act:
the Act of being everything that God is and of doing everything that God does.
In God, being and doing are exactly the same, exactly the same.
For God, existing and loving are exactly the same act.

Even the procession of the Son from the Father, and of the Spirit primarily from the Father and secondarily from the Son, are the same as that One Divine Eternal Act.

As concerns the Divine Nature, Father, Son, Spirit are equal.
They each share one and the same Divine Nature.
As concerns Divine Personhood, Father, Son, Spirit are not equal.
Each is distinct in His own Personhood.
The Father is greater than the Son, and the Son is greater than the Spirit.

Brother 6th August 2007 02:02 PM

Ron,

Since God created us, humans, in His Image and Likeness, then, some people have asked this question, what gender is God?, Male or Female? Or Both and beyond?...

Well, as far as I know, the Human Nature of Jesus Christ is a Male and He called and taught us to call the First Person of the Trinity “Father” (in the Our Father), again, a Male Gender, supporting the role of authority of this gender, in this case, over all His Creation but not as a ‘boss’ but as a Family Member, a Father. What about the Third Person of God, what gender is the Holy Spirit?

I understand that God is limitless and that by giving God a specific gender, we are limiting God, so God can be both Male and Female and Beyond; however, the Human Nature of Christ is specifically Male.

What is your perspective about this?

Ron Conte 6th August 2007 02:53 PM

The human nature of Christ is male.

The Divine Nature of God is neither male nor female,
however, maleness is a reflection of God, the Creator of the universe,
and femaleness is a reflection of the universe, of all that is created.
Therefore, God is properly called by male pronouns and male names,
since God is the Creator, not the creation.

Since all three Persons of the Trinity share one and the same
Divine Nature, they are each and all properly referred to as male.


Ron

Mario 6th August 2007 03:07 PM

Perhaps...
 
Brother,

In Genesis, it says:

{1:27} And God created man to his own image; to the image of God he created him; male and female, he created them.

I've always thought (I think Ron has expounded more fully on this) that the imaging of God in both male and female with a procreative capacity, reflects the Holy Trinity through the threesome of two parents and child.

Also, I believe the Church has refrained from calling God, Mother, for several reasons: first, the incarnate Second Person of the Blessed Trinity has a mother. In addition, Scripture places Jerusalem in a maternal role:

{66:10} Rejoice with Jerusalem, and exult in her, all you who love her! Rejoice greatly with her, all you who mourn over her!
{66:11} So may you nurse and be filled, from the breasts of her consolations. So may you receive milk and overflow with delights, from every portion of her glory.

And of course we know the Church has referred to herself as Mother.

Brother 6th August 2007 03:36 PM

Thanks Ron and Mario for your productive input.

Matthias 7th August 2007 02:51 AM

Who and what is God?
 
In "An Unpublished Manuscript on Purgatory," the nun in Purgatory is asked by her still-living religious sister if she now better understands who God is. After first responding with 'What a question!,' the Purgatorial nun finally admits that she now does fathom God better, but she provides no details.

Sometimes basic questions like this are overlooked or ignored by Catholics, and when they are asked, they all-too-often are answered in platitudes. Yet even children sometimes ask these questions that are rarely answered in specifics by theologians:

"Who and what is God?"

"How and when did God originate?"

"Why is God a Trinity?"

"Why is God all-good?"

"What is God's purpose?"

Ron Conte 7th August 2007 12:13 PM

"Who and what is God?"

God is Father, Son, Spirit.
God is One Divine Eternal Act.

"How and when did God originate?"

God has no origination; He has always existed, beyond time and place.

"Why is God a Trinity?"

Because God exists.
God's existence is the Father.
The Father's understanding of himself is the Son.
The Love between the Father and the Son is the Spirit.

"Why is God all-good?"

Because existence is good.

"What is God's purpose?"

To exist.

Climacus Areopagite 7th August 2007 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Conte (Post 11291)

"What is God's purpose?"

To exist.


And maybe to exist in men?

Ron Conte 7th August 2007 06:00 PM

No, that is not God's purpose, but rather His gift.

garabandalg 7th August 2007 06:21 PM

Too much or too little not a good moral thing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Conte (Post 11291)
"Who and what is God?"

God is Father, Son, Spirit.
God is One Divine Eternal Act.

"How and when did God originate?"

God has no origination; He has always existed, beyond time and place.

"Why is God a Trinity?"

Because God exists.
God's existence is the Father.
The Father's understanding of himself is the Son.
The Love between the Father and the Son is the Spirit.

"Why is God all-good?"

Because existence is good.

"What is God's purpose?"

To exist.


Can it be said that we get into moral trouble when we presume to be too equal to God or to be too distant from Him?


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