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TheGiftOfLife 7th November 2012 06:39 AM

November 7th 2012 - The Future
 
My reaction tonight has amazed me. Its a bitter sweet moment. I thought I would be more upset but actually I am at peace.

Here is my take on the outcome of Obama's victory.

Things will get worse, this next 4 years will be what Obama has done, only this time on steroids. We can see:

More attacks on the Catholic Church
More governmental control
More opportunity for Islamic's Jihadists and nuclear war
More dependency on the government
More poverty

Since Obama has no reason to hold back, he will be set free like a lion in the Colosseum.

As some of you know, I am a big proponent of Garabandal and have always been waiting for, as stated by Mari-Loli, "the warning will come when THINGS ARE AT IT WORST and COMMUNISM comes back."

This was the main reason why I questioned any past date predictions.

Now I see all the ducks lined up and the ingredients are all ready to make the cake.

I don't know exactly what will happen, but I hope we are all prepared for what is to come.

A man like Obama should have lost by a huge margin and the fact that he got 50% of the vote tells me that we are going to be dealing with many people who are going to be problematic when things get bad.

God Help Us!

Sacredcello 7th November 2012 07:50 AM

What a disappointing end to the election, which started with such promise when Santorum won Iowa.

However, I have never bought the idea that Obama is a communist, nor do I associate his election with what the Blessed Mother told the visionaries in Spain. The HHS Mandate is, nevertheless, very ominous for the future of our country. It might be that the visionaries were referring to policies such as the HHS Mandate along with many other things taking place worldwide. Think of the one-child policy in China, etc.

daytonafreak 7th November 2012 12:21 PM

I don't think words can describe how I feel at this moment. I don't have much time to type right now so I will have to be brief.

Next four years- I see an agenda of anti-religious, relativistic, pro-abortion, pro-gay marraige policies being shoved down our throats. Yes, the great apostasy is at our doorstep. Somehow I knew it had to happen but I was just hoping against hope I guess. So many mixed emotions right now, it's hard.

Somehow, I kept thinking of this passage:

James chapter 4, 4-8

{4:4} You adulterers! Do you not know that the friendship of this world is hostile to God? Therefore, whoever has chosen to be a friend of this world has been made into an enemy of God.
{4:5} Or do you think that Scripture says in vain: “The spirit which lives within you desires unto envy?”
{4:6} But he gives a greater grace. Therefore he says: “God resists the arrogant, but he gives grace to the humble.”
{4:7} Therefore, be subject to God. But resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
{4:8} Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners! And purify your hearts, you duplicitous souls!

daytonafreak 7th November 2012 12:24 PM

Maybe The Lord will see fit to send Pope "Peter the Roman" to us sometime in the next four years, acting as a sort of a counter balance to all of this.

Zach

Ron Conte 7th November 2012 04:13 PM

Any just society must redistribute wealth to some extent: social safety net programs, food stamps, medicare, disaster relief, progressive taxation so that the wealthy pay a larger percent of income. All of these types of wealth redistribution are moral under Catholic teaching, given a prudent evaluation of the circumstances and just limits on how much wealth is taken from one group and given to another.

Taking this redistribution of wealth too far would be one of the errors of socialism; taking it to an extreme would be communism. Individuals have a right to own property, and to dispense that property according to their own use of reason and free will. But a government and a society in general also has a right to consider the common good, to tax the people, and to redistribute some wealth, to some degree, as needed for the benefit of those in need and of the society as a whole.

I think I've said this before, but perhaps I was not clear:

This discussion group may not be used by any member to make unsubstantiated or exaggerated claims about President Obama or other politicians. As a liberal democrat, his political positions cannot reasonably be termed communism or even pure socialism. Certainly, the particular political positions of different politicians on both sides of the aisle are subject to legitimate reasonable criticism. But exaggerated and baseless claims, such as saying that President Obama is really a communist or is really a Muslim, have no place in this discussion group.

daytonafreak 7th November 2012 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sacredcello (Post 41186)
However, I have never bought the idea that Obama is a communist,


Sometimes we get angry and overdo it, it's just hard to see the majority of the people vote for someone who has been so outspoken in so many ways about the issues I stated above.

Ron Conte 7th November 2012 06:37 PM

Members who continue to claim that President Obama is a communist will have their accounts suspended for 30 days.

I have a certain role in this group to moderate the discussion. I don't appreciate having my directions about the limits of discussion ignored or contradicted.

See my post above.


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