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Ron Conte 13th February 2013 03:39 PM

What if Arinze is elected Pope?
 
What will it mean, in terms of my eschatology, if Cardinal Arinze is chosen as the next Pope? I would then conclude that:

World War 3 is imminent (first horseman)
the great apostasy will begin during the Year of Faith
the destruction of Rome and Vatican City will occur within a few years (probably not in July of 2013 as I had originally predicted)

Civil unrest is imminent (second horseman)
Famine will begin sometime in 2013 (third horseman)
death and the fear of death will grip the world (fourth horseman)

garabandalg 13th February 2013 10:25 PM

Should we be praying for an Arinze election????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Conte (Post 41630)
What will it mean, in terms of my eschatology, if Cardinal Arinze is chosen as the next Pope? I would then conclude that:

World War 3 is imminent (first horseman)
the great apostasy will begin during the Year of Faith
the destruction of Rome and Vatican City will occur within a few years (probably not in July of 2013 as I had originally predicted)

Civil unrest is imminent (second horseman)
Famine will begin sometime in 2013 (third horseman)
death and the fear of death will grip the world (fourth horseman)


Sounds like Arinze selection would be a real show stopper....

Centurion 13th February 2013 10:37 PM

Some sources seem to still favor Cardinal Arinze's selection at the conclave, while other sources are discounting him entirely, stating that he is too old to be a voting member. As I understand it, he is 80 years old currently. Is it known that he will or will not be voting? And must a Cardinal be present (realistically) to be elected?

Ron Conte 13th February 2013 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Centurion (Post 41643)
Some sources seem to still favor Cardinal Arinze's selection at the conclave, while other sources are discounting him entirely, stating that he is too old to be a voting member. As I understand it, he is 80 years old currently. Is it known that he will or will not be voting? And must a Cardinal be present (realistically) to be elected?


He has passed his 80th birthday, so he cannot vote. But he can and probably will be present for the opening ceremonies. He does not need to be present to be elected. Pope Saint Celestine was a hermit priest living in the wilderness when he was elected.

Ron Conte 13th February 2013 11:06 PM

In July, 1294, his pious exercises were suddenly interrupted by a scene unparalleled in ecclesiastical history. Three eminent dignitaries, accompanied by an immense multitude of monks and laymen, ascended the mountain, announced that Pietro had been chosen pope by unanimous vote of the Sacred College and humbly begged him to accept the honour.

Two years and three months had elapsed since the death of Nicholas IV (4 Apr., 1292) without much prospect that the conclave at Perugia would unite upon a candidate. Of the twelve Cardinals who composed the Sacred College six were Romans, four Italians and two French. The factious spirit of Guelph and Ghibelline, which was then epidemic in Italy, divided the conclave, as well as the city of Rome, into two hostile parties of the Orsini and the Colonna, neither of which could outvote the other....

When the situation seemed hopeless, Cardinal Latino Orsini admonished the fathers that God had revealed to a saintly hermit that if the cardinals did not perform their duty within four months, He would visit the Church with severe chastisement. All knew that he referred to Pietro di Murrone. The proposition was seized upon by the exhausted conclave and the election was made unanimous.

Pietro heard of his elevation with tears; but, after a brief prayer, obeyed what seemed the clear voice of God, commanding him to sacrifice his personal inclination on the altar of the public welfare. Flight was impossible, even if he contemplated it; for no sooner did the news of this extraordinary event spread abroad than multitudes (numbered at 200,000) flocked about him.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03479b.htm

Ron Conte 13th February 2013 11:06 PM

The lesson here is that strange things can happen in papal elections.

Shane 14th February 2013 05:33 PM

Cardinal Arinze's reaction to Pope Benedict's announcement.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06UP2qHCxWg


"The Holy Spirit does not go on holidays. So, there will be another Pope!"

Sacredcello 14th February 2013 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane (Post 41649)
Cardinal Arinze's reaction to Pope Benedict's announcement.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06UP2qHCxWg


"The Holy Spirit does not go on holidays. So, there will be another Pope!"


Beautiful, thank you for sharing this video of Cardinal Arinze, Shane.

daytonafreak 15th February 2013 04:47 PM

Cardinal Arinze says in this video:

"My hope and my prayer is that it will help many to get more mature in our faith" :-D

tapinu33 15th February 2013 10:02 PM

We need Cardinal Arinze as our Pope.


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