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Old 9th October 2010, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron Conte View Post
The universal Church is the Church led by the Bishop of Rome, the Pope, and his teachings are from Tradition and Scripture to the universal Church. Furthermore, the body of Bishops continuously, with every successive Pope and faithful successive Bishop, has held and taught that the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, just as the Creed of the universal Church teaches.

God is unchanging and eternal. The claim that the procession of the Spirit 'through the Son' is not eternal is a rejection of the eternal unchanging nature of God.

The Father does not proceed, therefore He is the first Person. The Son proceeds only from the Father, therefore He is the second Person. The Spirit proceeds primarily from the First Person and secondarily from the Second Person, but in one Act, therefore He is the third Person. If the Spirit proceeded only from the Father, then He would not be Third, but also Second (which is absurd).

There is a distinction, within the double procession of the Spirit, between the role of the Father and the role of the Son in that one Act. This distinction is based on the fact that the Father does not proceed, but the Son does proceed. So the Spirit proceeds primarily from the Father and secondarily from the Son.

The universal Church is of Rome. The Greek Churches are heretical and schismatic, as evidenced by their departure from the worldwide body of Bishops, their rejection of numerous successive Ecumenical Councils, and their rejection of the authority of numerous successive Popes. Peter was appointed directly by Christ to lead the Apostles, and Peter was the Bishop of Rome. The rejection of papal authority is an objective mortal sin.

Several Eastern Churches have remained faithful to Rome, believing and teaching all that the Ecumenical Councils and the Popes and the body of Bishops also teach. They are witnesses against the heretical and schismatic Churches of the East, who reject the authority of Rome.


Is it true that the original version of the Nicene-Constantinopalitan Creed, did not include the word Filioque (the original version said that the Holy Spirit “proceeds from the Father,” rather than “from the Father and the Son”) ?

While awaiting these things, be diligent, so that you may be found to be immaculate and unassailable before him, in peace. 2 Peter 3:14
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