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Old 7th December 2010, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by myLivingBread View Post
Hi Brother,
how about the image of God, what verse did it tell us to make images of God? is that verse applicable too? and they are also telling that the monument there is "tomb" in greek word "mnemeion"

Hi MyLivingBread,

God never told us “not to make images at all” that would be absurd because practically everything that surround us are images. What God told us is not to make any created thing a “god”. If we love our children, our car, money, etc., more than God, then they become idols. There are Protestants who are like the Pharisee who condemn Catholics who pray to God in front of an image that represents His Kingdom, they say that they obey God by not making images and yet they worship money, their recognition (which is actually an “image” of themselves. Yes, God condemns literal images that are worshiped as if they were a god, but He also condemns spiritual images that we make up in our minds and hearts, of how our lives should be, our reputation, “the stars”, “the sun”, to become famous, etc., those images that we create in our minds and hearts are also idols because we are making a god out of ourselves and not letting God do His will in our lives.

what verse did it tell us to make images of God? is that verse applicable too?

Yes, I believe this verse is applicable too because God is the Just One.


{34:14} Do not be willing to worship any strange god. The jealous Lord is his name. God is a rival.

This verse is also telling us that we can make images of God but not of any “strange” gods because He is “Jealous” God. If we make images of the True God, or images that represent HIM, His Mercy, etc., how can God become “Jealous”?... If a wife tells her husband of how nice and beautiful he looks in a photo, is her husband going to become jealous of that?... of course, not. On the contrary, he is going to be happy. However, if the same wife, takes a photo of strange man and tells her husband of how nice beautiful that other man looks, is her husband going to become jealous?... obviously yes. Her husband is not going to be happy.

So yes, God is telling us in that particular passage that we can make images that represent Himself and venerate them.

Now, concerning the following passage:

[Leviticus 26]
{26:1} I am the Lord your God. You shall not make for yourselves an idol or a graven image. Neither shall you erect a monument, or set up a conspicuous stone in your land, in order that you may adore it. For I am the Lord your God.

{23:29}…build the sepulchers of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the just.

Again, what God is telling us is not to make images at all, but not to worship the images as if the images itself are a god, as if an image itself can save us.

Some graves had images, but particularly “the graves of the Just”, the were “special ones” because of the deeds of the Patriarchs, they had images or monuments as well, it could be of a cherub, etc., there is nothing wrong with making that in their honor.

God Himself told Moses to make images and permitted them to venerate them because of what they represented, not because of the image itself.

[Numbers 21]
{21:8} And the Lord said to him: “Make a bronze serpent, and place it as a sign. Whoever, having been struck, gazes upon it, shall live.”
{21:9} Therefore, Moses made a bronze serpent, and he placed it as a sign. When those who had been struck gazed upon it, they were healed.

To “gaze upon it” is a veneration. The people who venerated that image got cured because they know it came from God, not from that particular image.

By the way, that particular image was a foreshadow of the image of Christ on the Cross which at the same time represents His Love and Mercy.

The Ark of the Covenant had images as well, two Cherubs.

Salomon’s Temple had images inside and they were permitted by God. [2 Chronicles 3:7] [2 Chronicles 9:18-19]

Now, let’s look at this passage from the NT:

{9:20} And behold, a woman, who had suffered from a flow of blood for twelve years, approached from behind and touched the hem of his garment.
{9:21} For she said within herself, “If I will touch even his garment, I shall be saved.”

Do you think that this woman believed in “the garment” or in “Jesus”?... She was cured, not because she believed in the garment itsef, but because she believed in Jesus. There were many people surrounding and touching Jesus at that moment, but the difference is that this particular woman touched His garment with Faith that Jesus (not the garment) was going to cure her by just doing that. She didn’t even ask Jesus, she just had faith that by only touching His garment (an object), she was going to be cured.
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