CatholicPlanet.Net discussion group  

Go Back   CatholicPlanet.Net discussion group > Catholic Continuing Education > Theology of the Body
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 15th September 2011, 07:53 PM
Ron Conte Ron Conte is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 12,768
Default conflict between a pastor and the music director

Here is a secular news story on a conflict between a pastor and the music director:
http://www.northjersey.com/community...ts_sermon.html

The attitude of the music director and some of the parishoners is strange. It is as if they are not referring to a church and a pastor, but to a secular business.

"He [the music director] said he met with Astarita in August to discuss the remarks and to reveal he was gay and had a partner of 15 years. 'His comments against gay marriage were insensitive and uncomfortable,' said Russell, who admitted he felt pressured to leave his job."

So he has been living in sin, in a homosexual relationship, for 15 years. But he feels he was wronged because the pastor preaches what the Church treaches. He seems to have no realization that his actions are grave sins under Church teaching. It is as if he were working at a secular job.

"Longtime church member Pam Lakefield was in the congregation when Astarita preached the sermon and said his comments were 'offensive,' and that the priest is teaching horrible thoughts. 'Hes losing parishioners,' said Lakefield, a member since 1970, who is strongly considering leaving the church."

I think that she has already left the Church in her heart and mind.
__________________
Ron Conte
Roman Catholic theologian
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 15th September 2011, 08:09 PM
Sacredcello's Avatar
Sacredcello Sacredcello is offline
supporting member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: California
Posts: 973
Default

This is a problem with many parishes. This priest is courageous to speak the truth. As pastor, it his responsibility to do so.

I think many gay music directors, such as Russell, who are openly gay and "married" to their partners by law, would keep quiet if the pastor at their church were to begin preaching in this manner. Thus, in those situations, it might be possible to retain a gay music director, if he or she is willing to keep their private life to themselves. But, in many cases, such as with Russell, this is not acceptable and they are not willing to acknowledge Catholic teaching or her authority to teach. The choir, also, is put in a very awkward position. They get to know the director personally in rehearsals, etc., and feel they are being "judgmental" if they go against the homosexual lifestyle which is presented as something inherent to the person.

I pray that more pastors will have the courage that Astarita has shown.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 15th September 2011, 09:22 PM
garabandalg garabandalg is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,686
Default The usual suspects....

To borrow and slightly twist the words of Churchill "Never have so few been able to bully and impose their lifestyle on so many"

A number of influential homosexuals have stated that this was all part of their plan. Namely, to legitimize their lifestyle through the skillful use of media, politics, and social pressure. Seems those three ingredients rear their heads often in today's world regarding what is moral or not.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:00 AM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.