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Old 27th October 2014, 02:16 PM
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I have a new post on euthanasia.
http://ronconte.wordpress.com/2014/1...r-human-right/
In it, I discuss the case of Brittany Maynard, the 29 year old newlywed who is publicly proclaiming her intention to commit suicide due to a terminal illness.
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Indirect abortion and indirect contraception can be moral:

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http://www.catholicplanet.net/forum/...ead.php?t=5745

Now, what about a case where all the "ordinary means" to save a person's life have ended; and the patient is now permanently connected to a machine which keeps this person alive indefinitely in a state which many people call a 'vegetative state' (no response of any kind, the machine just makes this person breathe), so this is what some people call an "extraordinary mean".

The person is medically "dead" (the patient would be already dead if it's not because the machine just makes him breathe), no response of any kind, nor hope that this person will ever be "resurrected" at all, the machine just keep this person breathing, many months passes, a year passes with nothing at all happening and the doctors say that there is no hope that something will happen with this patient, and the bills keep increasing for the family and their debt is getting greater and greater.

Would be morally good to disconnect this patient after all these efforts and time trying to make this person to come back with any kind of reaction with no results at all? - would this case also be called euthanasia?
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Old 5th February 2015, 10:32 PM
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Indirect abortion and indirect contraception can be moral:

Post explaining this:
http://www.catholicplanet.net/forum/...ead.php?t=5745

Now, what about a case where all the "ordinary means" to save a person's life have ended; and the patient is now permanently connected to a machine which keeps this person alive indefinitely in a state which many people call a 'vegetative state' (no response of any kind, the machine just makes this person breathe), so this is what some people call an "extraordinary mean".

The person is medically "dead" (the patient would be already dead if it's not because the machine just makes him breathe), no response of any kind, nor hope that this person will ever be "resurrected" at all, the machine just keep this person breathing, many months passes, a year passes with nothing at all happening and the doctors say that there is no hope that something will happen with this patient, and the bills keep increasing for the family and their debt is getting greater and greater.

Would be morally good to disconnect this patient after all these efforts and time trying to make this person to come back with any kind of reaction with no results at all? - would this case also be called euthanasia?

It is not euthanasia to withhold extra-ordinary means, which provide the patient with no benefit (the person is brain dead). So in that case, the machine could be disconnected.

However, the diagnosis (if it could be called that) of a vegetative state does not justify withholding any type of treatment, ordinary or extra-ordinary, that would benefit the patient. Persons claimed to be in that state are generally NOT brain dead (literally, no brain activity). They are awake and alert, but with reduced ability to understand and respond.
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Got it. Thank you Ron.
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Man in vegetative state for 12 years wakes up to tell remarkable story
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2015/0...arkable-story/

his story is heartbreaking, but it shows that persons in an apparent vegetative state may be conscious and alert, able to understand the people around them.
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Remarkable story, thanks for sharing Ron. So, in this case he was not brain dead so he had hope.
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