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Old 12th June 2015, 06:16 PM
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Default Pope Francis' Ecology encyclical

What will Pope Francis say in his forthcoming encyclical on ecology?

He is hinting that a portion of the text will be devoted to world hunger. The Pope said:

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“Statistics on waste are very concerning: a third of food products end up under this heading,” the Pope told members of the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO) in a June 11 audience.

“It is unsettling to know that a good portion of agricultural products end up used for other purposes, maybe good, but that are not immediate needs of the hungry,” he said.

Francis’ comments were addressed to participants of the organization’s annual conference, being held in Rome June 6-13.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/ne...f-waste-26511/
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Old 15th June 2015, 07:24 PM
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A draft of the Pope's encyclical on ecology has leaked (in Italian).

I remind everyone that a decision of the Church on doctrine or discipline is not binding on anyone until it is promulgated. A leaked document is not promulgation. So take whatever is said about its contents with a grain of salt, until the official version is released on June 18th.
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Old 16th June 2015, 01:45 AM
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Default socialism causes hunger

I just hope this Pope knows the difference from state sponsored socialism and church socialism.
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Old 17th June 2015, 07:02 PM
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Hi Ron
I am still a little confused about encyclicals. I understand that only people can be infallible or fallible. If the person is Infallable then isn't the document Infallable also?
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Old 17th June 2015, 08:05 PM
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Hi Ron
I am still a little confused about encyclicals. I understand that only people can be infallible or fallible. If the person is Infallable then isn't the document Infallable also?
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Popes are not personally infallible. A Pope is not an infallible person.

Documents are not infallible. A teaching in a document can be infallible, or non-infallible.

A document can also contain decisions on discipline, not doctrine, as well as assessments of the current circumstances of society, and comments about areas of knowledge outside of faith and morals.

We have to wait and see what the encyclical says, to know if it contains any teachings. As far as we know, it does not define any infallible doctrines (dogmas). The encyclical probably contains some non-infallible teachings, such as our moral responsibility for the environment, and some material that does not fall under the teaching authority of the Church.
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Old 18th June 2015, 11:02 AM
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The encyclical is out now:
http://w2.vatican.va/content/frances...audato-si.html

I will take some time to read it before commenting.
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Old 21st June 2015, 02:58 PM
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Default Pope likes EU one worlders and their agenda!

Nice article in The Telegraph how the Popes leader on climate change wanted to keep out any dissenting scientists that didn't fit the lefts carbon agenda. Of course the sun has no room in the climate change discussion. I wish the Pope did more to start a Crusade to save the Middle East Christians than make Al Gore want to become Catholic.
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Old 21st June 2015, 04:24 PM
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I'm doing a paragraph by paragraph review of Laudato Si:
https://ronconte.wordpress.com/

So far, there are several sharp rebukes of the political left and the way that they exalt the environment over the needs of humanity. I don't believe the Pope was influenced by the left in any inordinate manner.

I'm a conservative Catholic, yet I believe that humanity is partly responsible for global warming (and that it is occurring). I'm concerned for the environment, but more concerned about human persons in need. I see no substantial errors in Laudato si, though in a few places I disagree with the emphasis on one point versus another.
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Old 23rd June 2015, 02:25 PM
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I think it's a very informative Encyclical!
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A lot of the media commentary on Laudato Si' is foolish, distorting the true message of LS and treating the Pope with disrespect.

However, the Washington Post had a better article on the topic, which ended with this paragraph:

"Pope Francis is seeking a far more profound change: economic policy grounded in moral values, measured not by how much money the few make but the respect accorded the rights of all and the health of the environment. Conservatives say he should stick to theology. But he already is sticking to theology, understanding that the worship of markets and the acceptance of unrestrained appetites are moral problems, not technical ones. If this statement on climate is most welcome, his teachings on the economy offer a critique necessary to finding the way out of these problems."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...4b5_story.html
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