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Old 12th August 2016, 05:41 PM
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Default former member declares Pope Franicis heretic

A former member of this discussion group, Padraig, has publicly declared Pope Francis to be a heretic. He did so in his own discussion group, motheofgod.com (the lack of an "R" at the end of mothe is not a typo; that is the correct address of the site).

Here is his post rejecting Pope Francis:
http://motheofgod.com/threads/insight.9367/

Here is the thread at CatholicPlanet.net discussing his banning from this group:
http://www.catholicplanet.net/forum/...ead.php?t=1735
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Old 13th August 2016, 08:10 PM
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How sad. He seems to be wrapped in a cloak of error. He also needs help with his typing!
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Old 26th August 2016, 12:21 AM
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Wow, that was 9 years ago!??! How the time flies.
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Old 6th September 2016, 01:05 PM
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To accuse any Pope of teaching heresy is a very grave matter. And yet his accusers often have no formal training in theology, and they can't offer a coherent theological argument as to why anything the Pope has taught should be considered heresy.

A Pope can err in his personal opinions, and even to a limited extent in his non-infallible teachings. But such errors do not justify an accusation of teaching heresy.

And in my considered theological opinion, no Pope can teach or commit heresy, because the prevenient grace of God keeps the Church indefectible by keeping Her head from all forms of heresy.
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Old 6th September 2016, 02:51 PM
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[Matthew]
{16:18} And I say to you, that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.
{16:19} And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatever you shall bind on earth shall be bound, even in heaven. And whatever you shall release on earth shall be released, even in heaven.

IF (a counter-actual hypothetical) the Pope is a heretic, then Jesus did not built His Church upon a Rock but on sand and the gates of Hell have prevailed. It's like saying that Jesus erred badly or worst still, that He lied. But Jesus is God; therefore, He cannot err.

The Pope is a human with his flaws and personal errors, but not on matters of teaching doctrine because the Church is protected by God Himself. God is not going to forsake His own Church for our sake.

In the Nicene Creed we profess: "...We believe in one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church...". Saying that the Pope went as far as being a heretic, then that is not really believing our Faith.
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