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Old 15th February 2015, 07:33 PM
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When does the great apostasy begin?

In one sense, it is already well under way. Most persons who call themselves Catholic do not believe or practice the Faith. Most Mass-going Catholics do not go to confession. Most married Catholics use contraception. Many unmarried Catholics commit various sexual sins. Many Catholics have accepted sinful secular society as their teacher on every issue. They do not accept teaching or correction from the Pope or the body of Bishops. And most teachers of Catholicism have either gone completely astray, or have incorporated many grave errors into their teachings.

In another sense, the great apostasy has not yet begun, because the weak in faith and the unfaithful have not yet formally departed from the Church.

I believe that Pope Francis will teach controversial true doctrines, and will make controversial decisions on doctrine at the time of the Synod of Bishops in October of 2015. Then many conservatives and traditionalists will declare him a heretic and depart from communion with the Church.

Then, the next Pope (Cardinal Arinze as Pope Pius XIII) will be very conservative. And he will also teach true doctrines and make decisions on discipline. But his words and actions will offend liberal Catholics, causing most of them to depart as well.

By this two step action, the great apostasy will unfold. Whoever remains faithful to the Pope, remains in communion with the Church.
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Old 16th March 2015, 05:40 PM
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Interesting article I just read. I would like to here others reactions.

Title: Pope Francis wants to change two major Catholic laws he sees as 'archaic'

“In a private conversation with his longtime friend from Buenos Aires, Oscar Crespo, Pope Francis reportedly revealed his plans to change important "archaic" parts of the Catholic rules. Crespo claims the Pope intends to overturn the "centuries-old ban" on Catholic priests from getting married and to lift the banishment of divorcees from the Catholic church.”



http://www.catholic.org/news/hf/fait...y.php?id=59123
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Old 16th March 2015, 06:03 PM
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I think that Pope Francis will permit married men to become priests. I don't think he will permit single priests to seek a wife. In the East, married men can become priests in the Catholic Church, but single priests cannot seek marriage.

Divorced persons can receive Communion. Only persons divorced and remarried without an annulment are prohibited from Communion. I think the Pope will broaden the availability of annulments, and also generally permit persons who are not conscious of grave sin to receive Communion.
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Old 16th March 2015, 06:17 PM
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Ron:

Can you give your insight as to why the idea of married men becoming priests would cause division? After all, its not part of church doctrine.
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Old 16th March 2015, 07:16 PM
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Ron:

Can you give your insight as to why the idea of married men becoming priests would cause division? After all, its not part of church doctrine.

That's only one of a number of possible controversial changes to discipline that the Pope might make. He might also teach some controversial doctrines.

https://ronconte.wordpress.com/2015/...possibilities/
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Old 25th March 2015, 05:46 PM
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Looks like the debate is already heated:

“Nearly 500 British priests have signed a letter urging those attending this year's family synod to issue a "clear and firm proclamation" upholding Church teaching on marriage. An extraordinary synod last year provoked heated debate on the question of whether remarried Catholics should be permitted to receive Holy Communion, which was a proposal presented by retired German Cardinal Walter Kasper.”

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Old 25th March 2015, 08:44 PM
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This video shows a little of what Pope Francis may be thinking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DAiPS41CZc
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