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Old 4th November 2008, 12:28 PM
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When a devout man is married to a woman who changes her mind about being a good Catholic and begins going against the teachings of the RCC, is there ever a case when it is OK for the man to leaver her? I know he cannot get a divorce nor have any relations of any sort with another woman. But can he simply move away alone for the rest of his life if she were to be extreme enough? For instance, if she rejected all teachings and even went so far as to turn to pagan rituals? Or if she became extremely anti-Catholic (like some other Christian religions are) to turn her small children away from the Church, even though she agreed to raise them as Catholics when they were married?

Or does he deal with it and try to change her, not matter how long it takes, even if he must deal with that the rest of his life?

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Old 4th November 2008, 01:03 PM
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When a devout man is married to a woman who changes her mind about being a good Catholic and begins going against the teachings of the RCC, is there ever a case when it is OK for the man to leaver her? I know he cannot get a divorce nor have any relations of any sort with another woman. But can he simply move away alone for the rest of his life if she were to be extreme enough? For instance, if she rejected all teachings and even went so far as to turn to pagan rituals? Or if she became extremely anti-Catholic (like some other Christian religions are) to turn her small children away from the Church, even though she agreed to raise them as Catholics when they were married?

Or does he deal with it and try to change her, not matter how long it takes, even if he must deal with that the rest of his life?

Civil divorce is permitted in some grave cases, but the bond of the Sacrament remains, so neither spouse can remarry. Whether or not civil divorce and separation would be moral depends upon intention and circumstance. It is a judgment of the prudential order.

It is not sufficient that she merely stopped practicing the Catholic Faith, since St. Paul states that a spouse should remain married, even to an unbeliever, as long as the spouse can still practice their faith.

I still need an answer from you on the other point.
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Old 7th December 2010, 07:23 PM
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Ron, can you teach a little on marriage outside the Catholic Church or outside the Sacrament of Marriage. For example, marriages performed by a justice of the peace or a self proclaimed "preacher". Would these be considered or termed natural marriages and would subsequent natural sexual relations be moral? Thanks.
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Ron, can you teach a little on marriage outside the Catholic Church or outside the Sacrament of Marriage. For example, marriages performed by a justice of the peace or a self proclaimed "preacher". Would these be considered or termed natural marriages and would subsequent natural sexual relations be moral? Thanks.

Christ established the Sacrament of marriage. Prior to that time, natural marriage prevailed. Adam and Eve had a natural marriage. The Patriarchs had natural marriages. Zechariah and Elizabeth, the parents of John the Baptist, had a natural marriage. Joachim and Anna, the Virgin Mary's parents, had a natural marriage. Even non-believers (non-Christians) today have a natural marriage.

Natural marital relations open to life is moral within any natural marriage. The Sacrament of marriage includes all the goods of natural marriage, and so natural marital relations open to life is moral within the Sacrament of marriage also.

Casti Connubii refers to 'the natural and primeval right of marriage' meaning that human persons have had a right to marry since the foundation of the human race.

"Therefore although the sacramental element may be absent from a marriage as is the case among unbelievers, still in such a marriage, inasmuch as it is a true marriage there must remain and indeed there does remain that perpetual bond which by divine right is so bound up with matrimony from its first institution that it is not subject to any civil power."

For non-Christians, no priest or preacher need join them for the marriage to be merely natural. However, two baptized Christians can only have the Sacrament of marriage or no marriage at all.

"And since the valid matrimonial consent among the faithful was constituted by Christ as a sign of grace, the sacramental nature is so intimately bound up with Christian wedlock that there can be no true marriage between baptized persons "without it being by that very fact a sacrament." "

It is not entirely clear, in every case, whether two Protestests who marry have the Sacrament, or not. It is not absolutely necessary for validity for their to be an ordained person or other representative of the Church presiding.

It is also not clear whether or not a Catholic or Protestant who marries a non-baptized person has the Sacrament or a natural marriage, or not.
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