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Old 15th September 2011, 07:53 PM
Ron Conte Ron Conte is online now
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Default conflict between a pastor and the music director

Here is a secular news story on a conflict between a pastor and the music director:

The attitude of the music director and some of the parishoners is strange. It is as if they are not referring to a church and a pastor, but to a secular business.

"He [the music director] said he met with Astarita in August to discuss the remarks and to reveal he was gay and had a partner of 15 years. 'His comments against gay marriage were insensitive and uncomfortable,' said Russell, who admitted he felt pressured to leave his job."

So he has been living in sin, in a homosexual relationship, for 15 years. But he feels he was wronged because the pastor preaches what the Church treaches. He seems to have no realization that his actions are grave sins under Church teaching. It is as if he were working at a secular job.

"Longtime church member Pam Lakefield was in the congregation when Astarita preached the sermon and said his comments were 'offensive,' and that the priest is teaching horrible thoughts. 'Hes losing parishioners,' said Lakefield, a member since 1970, who is strongly considering leaving the church."

I think that she has already left the Church in her heart and mind.
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Old 15th September 2011, 08:09 PM
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This is a problem with many parishes. This priest is courageous to speak the truth. As pastor, it his responsibility to do so.

I think many gay music directors, such as Russell, who are openly gay and "married" to their partners by law, would keep quiet if the pastor at their church were to begin preaching in this manner. Thus, in those situations, it might be possible to retain a gay music director, if he or she is willing to keep their private life to themselves. But, in many cases, such as with Russell, this is not acceptable and they are not willing to acknowledge Catholic teaching or her authority to teach. The choir, also, is put in a very awkward position. They get to know the director personally in rehearsals, etc., and feel they are being "judgmental" if they go against the homosexual lifestyle which is presented as something inherent to the person.

I pray that more pastors will have the courage that Astarita has shown.
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Old 15th September 2011, 09:22 PM
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Default The usual suspects....

To borrow and slightly twist the words of Churchill "Never have so few been able to bully and impose their lifestyle on so many"

A number of influential homosexuals have stated that this was all part of their plan. Namely, to legitimize their lifestyle through the skillful use of media, politics, and social pressure. Seems those three ingredients rear their heads often in today's world regarding what is moral or not.
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