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Old 20th July 2010, 05:48 AM
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There is a story of a soldier that was helped by St. Michael the Archangel who appeared to him just as another soldier at first in 1950:

http://americaneedsfatima.blogspot.c...ng-marine.html

Thank you for the story, Brother, it is inspiring.
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Old 20th July 2010, 01:15 PM
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Careful, Brother- some of us are m-i-l's. lol

lol, but not all m-i-l's, only whe wicked ones. I'm pretty sure you're a sweet angelic one, Jeanne
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Old 20th July 2010, 01:16 PM
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Thank you for the story, Brother, it is inspiring.

You're welcome Excelcius!
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Old 20th July 2010, 02:37 PM
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You're welcome Excelcius!

But after I thought about it more, how could be a Holy Angel kill a man(human/person)? Isn't it against the ten commandment?
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Old 20th July 2010, 02:49 PM
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But after I thought about it more, how could be a Holy Angel kill a man(human/person)? Isn't it against the ten commandment?

The Fifth Commandment is "Thou shall not murder" meaning that a person can kill an evil person in self defense or in a just war.

Angels of God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah killing many people (Gen 19); by the way, these two angels that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah also appeared to Lot and stayed with him for some time as if they were regular persons.
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Old 20th July 2010, 05:17 PM
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The Fifth Commandment is "Thou shall not murder" meaning that a person can kill an evil person in self defense or in a just war.

Angels of God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah killing many people (Gen 19); by the way, these two angels that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah also appeared to Lot and stayed with him for some time as if they were regular persons.

Oh, ok, that's right, thanks for the verse, it reminds me about this kill/murder things.
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Old 20th July 2010, 05:24 PM
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lol, but not all m-i-l's, only whe wicked ones. I'm pretty sure you're a sweet angelic one, Jeanne

You will have to ask my 3 d-i-l's and my one s-i-l. I am not sure they woukd agree!!!!!!
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Old 20th July 2010, 06:56 PM
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I used to think this response of Nathanael was humorous. But now I am not so sure:

{1:45} Philip found Nathanael, and he said to him, “We have found the one about whom Moses wrote in the Law and the Prophets: Jesus, the son of Joseph, from Nazareth.”
{1:46} And Nathanael said to him, “Can anything good be from Nazareth?”

the humor would be that perhaps Nazareth is not so good of a place, but now I think Nathanael thought the Messiah would come from Bethlehem, so maybe that is why he made this response.

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Old 20th July 2010, 10:13 PM
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A side note -or question - did anybody read "The Name of the Rose" by Umberto Eco? It was out about 20 or so years ago and was about a group of monks in a remote monastery trying to solve a murder in their midst and it all centered around the presupposition that Jesus never laughed. It was a very intriguing story and I highly recommend it. It takes place in Medieval times so is not dated even though it is old.
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Old 20th July 2010, 11:08 PM
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A side note -or question - did anybody read "The Name of the Rose" by Umberto Eco? It was out about 20 or so years ago and was about a group of monks in a remote monastery trying to solve a murder in their midst and it all centered around the presupposition that Jesus never laughed. It was a very intriguing story and I highly recommend it. It takes place in Medieval times so is not dated even though it is old.
I never read the book but I heard of it. I'm sure Jesus laughed on occasion since he is like us in all things except for sin. But here is an interesting expression from Ecclesiastes:

{2:2} Laughter, I considered an error. And to rejoicing, I said: “Why are you being deceived, to no purpose?”

Jesus says: "Blessed are you who are weeping now, for you shall laugh." In the next life laughter will be truly meaningful. In this first life, laughter is in a sense erroneous because of the current situation of our fallen state, personal sins, the difficulties of life, the evil in the world, etc. At least that is my interpretation. Obviously it is not wrong to laugh. It is an expression of joy, yet all the joys in this first life are mixed with sorrow, so maybe that is what Ecclesiastes meant by the above in the context of his meditation on the vanity in all things.
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