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Old 7th March 2012, 09:32 PM
zouxi zouxi is offline
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Default Accidental glory

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st. thomas acquinas talked about essential and accidental glory for blessed in heaven. Is such a thing exist in true catholic theology? and if yes, what is accidental glory exactly?

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Old 7th March 2012, 11:53 PM
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Greetings Ron,'

st. thomas acquinas talked about essential and accidental glory for blessed in heaven. Is such a thing exist in true catholic theology? and if yes, what is accidental glory exactly?

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Accidents are things that change, without changing the nature of a thing. The essence or substance is what a thing is, which cannot be changed without changing it into a new type of thing.

The essential unchanging and unchangeable glory of the Blessed in Heaven is the Beatific Vision of God. All the Blessed have this vision continually and it does not change, since God is unchanging.

But then the Blessed also have different glories, depending on the differences of their merits and the good deeds of their lives. You, in Heaven, enjoy the company of your family and friends, while I, in Heaven, enjoy the company of my family and friends. And while all the Blessed in Heaven are one in God, and we all enjoy the company of all, there are differences in each person's particular enjoyment, based on who they are as a person and what their life was like.

There are also changing glories such as when a Blessed person in Heaven enjoys considering one good, but then moves on to consider another good. So the accidental glories differ from person to person and from time to time. But the essential glory is unchanging enjoyment of God.
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Old 8th March 2012, 12:07 AM
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Default If loved ones lose their souls do we cease to know them

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If we are to be perfectly happy in Heaven I imagine we must have knowledge erased of any of our loved ones who may be damned

It would destroy us to be aware of such a thing
Imagine if we arrive in Heaven and find some of our family did not make it

Does Scripture say anything about this
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Old 8th March 2012, 01:25 AM
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If we are to be perfectly happy in Heaven I imagine we must have knowledge erased of any of our loved ones who may be damned

It would destroy us to be aware of such a thing
Imagine if we arrive in Heaven and find some of our family did not make it

Does Scripture say anything about this

Since Hell is a just and merciful punishment, the Blessed in Heaven are not distressed at this act of God's justice. They fully understand, in a way that we can't imagine, the need for Hell as well as Heaven. So we don't have our memories of some loved ones erased. We simply understand the truth better than any Saint on earth could understand.

I don't know of any Scripture passage on that particular point.
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