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Old 22nd February 2008, 04:21 PM
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Default Luther, Calvin and Cranmer

As I now read Crocker's TRIUMPH - A 2000 Year History of The Catholic Church, I cannot help but want to peg Luther, Calvin and Cranmer as The Unholy Trinity. I would also like to compare Protestantism to the fallen angels, where they shouted in unison "I will not serve!"

Just as a third of the angels chose not to serve God, Luther the lunatic and his sympathizers chose not to serve the Church. So we have a scene where man falls away from his Church, forms his own according to his own liking and calls it Protestantism. But it does not end there, as Crocker states "heresy builds on heresy," I would like to suggest that Protestantism breeds Athiesm, where man falls from religion altogether, calls it Communism and cries out for the destruction of all religions.

Now throw in the Muslims who are hell-bent on destroying anyone who does not yearn to worship as in the good old days of Abraham, the scene now shifts to a Battle Royale; Protestant vs Catholic, Muslim vs Christian, Athiest vs Religious, man pitted against man, divide and conquer is the rule until man reaches full circle in his cycle of self-destruction.

And it all began with "I will not serve!"

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Old 22nd February 2008, 04:45 PM
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Default Rev 8:12 and Protestantism

"Revelation 8:12
The fourth angel sounded, and a third of the sun and a third of the moon and a third of the stars were struck, so that a third of them would be darkened and the day would not shine for a third of it, and the night in the same way."

Perhaps this quote from Rev. 8: 12 where a third of the stars were darkened (or fall from the sky) refers to 1/3 of the Catholic Church, especially priests, becoming darkened by the effect of the Protestant Reformation.
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Old 23rd February 2008, 07:22 PM
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I dont think it refers to that, lets remember that all christians will be eventually unite into one holy Catholic Church!
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Old 14th February 2009, 09:14 AM
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There is one thing I should admit that protestant people is better from catholic people, regardless their separation from the catholic church and their false. They are active!, they are active to search people from their darkness day(maybe a sinfull one) to the light, from people who do not knew Jesus to people who adore Him. It seems this kind of spirit is rooted in the heart of every single protestant people, whether in catholic it seems this kind of spirit is active only in saints and priests, not in lay catholic people. In my opinion, once again, they are active or more active to introduce Jesus, to bring back people to the light, compare to catholic people. Again, this is all is my opinion, what do you people think about this?
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Old 14th February 2009, 12:26 PM
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Some Protestants are just as inactive in practicing the Faith as some Catholic laypersons. There is good within the various Protestant denominations, despite their heretical beliefs.

In the parable of the good Samaritan:

The Samaritans were not pagans, but Jews who practiced an altered version of the Jewish Faith; so Samaritans are comparable to Protestants. But Jesus praises the good Samaritan, despite his heresies, for his good works. The Jews who refused to help their neighbor in need sinned seriously, even though they practiced the true Jewish Faith.

We can sometimes learn from Protestants, from their good example, and from their good devotion to Christ. But not all Protestant behave in a praiseworthy manner.
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Old 14th February 2009, 01:10 PM
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Yes, in my opinion above I need to add the word "some".
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Old 14th February 2009, 03:46 PM
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Default Martin Luther earned a one-way ticket to ... ???

I know this very holy Claretian priest, Fr. Thomas Matin who died in 1975 while on a pilgrimage in Lourdes. He has a reputation of being able to tell the distant future and has a gift levitation during Mass. He is also the author of a book about a German mystic and stigmatist Therese Neumann, he, being her spiritual director. He always quote this holy woman who is able to tell the fate of the souls of dead. She looks up when the soul went to heaven and looks down when she sees the soul in hell. When asked about the whereabouts of Martin Luther, sadly, she looks down.

Fr. Thomas Matin is the only one people know of, to have verified that the soul of Martin Luther is lost. Forever! ... and ever. Amen!


I found this link about this mystic:
http://www.catholicstore.com/browsep...tigmatist.HTML
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Old 16th February 2009, 10:10 AM
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He is also the author of a book about a German mystic and stigmatist Therese Neumann, he, being her spiritual director. He always quote this holy woman who is able to tell the fate of the souls of dead. She looks up when the soul went to heaven and looks down when she sees the soul in hell. When asked about the whereabouts of Martin Luther, sadly, she looks down.

I found this link about this mystic:
http://www.catholicstore.com/browsep...tigmatist.HTML

Hi Lazarus,
I have briefly come across her name whilst reading Catholic Prophecy.
Her most famous quote about being America, not been invaded by foreign armies, but its downfall as a mighty superpower by economic disintegration through the cost of natural disasters. I guess one or two major earthquakes and some more inevitable hurricanes would certainly make the US Federal Government insolvent, because I understand it has essentially run out of budget surplus cash reserves long ago, and is running on trillion dollar deficits, much like a maxed out credit card limit! This may possibly be the straw that will break the camel's back so to speak.

I found a good exclusive biography about Therese Neumann online at:-
http://www.thereseneumann.de/thereseenglish/index.htm

What really touched me was the amazing intercession on the canonization day of St. Therese of Lisieux which happened to be seven years after her illness started, to make it quite an incredible healing for Therese Neumann.

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Old 17th February 2009, 10:40 AM
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I wonder why the Bishop of Konnersreuth took so long to open the cause for the beatification of Therese Neumann. There were 40,000 letters before this was to happen in 2005. What a remarkable life!
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Old 17th October 2009, 12:11 AM
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As I now read Crocker's TRIUMPH - A 2000 Year History of The Catholic Church, I cannot help but want to peg Luther, Calvin and Cranmer as The Unholy Trinity. I would also like to compare Protestantism to the fallen angels, where they shouted in unison "I will not serve!"

Just as a third of the angels chose not to serve God, Luther the lunatic and his sympathizers chose not to serve the Church. So we have a scene where man falls away from his Church, forms his own according to his own liking and calls it Protestantism. But it does not end there, as Crocker states "heresy builds on heresy," I would like to suggest that Protestantism breeds Athiesm, where man falls from religion altogether, calls it Communism and cries out for the destruction of all religions.

Now throw in the Muslims who are hell-bent on destroying anyone who does not yearn to worship as in the good old days of Abraham, the scene now shifts to a Battle Royale; Protestant vs Catholic, Muslim vs Christian, Athiest vs Religious, man pitted against man, divide and conquer is the rule until man reaches full circle in his cycle of self-destruction.

And it all began with "I will not serve!"

I finished 'Triumph' by Crocker this week.
The history of the Church is fascinating, all 2000 years of it.
Its the history of competing philosophies,beliefs always
attempting to battle or destroy the Catholic Church.

Followed this up by a quick read of 'Can a Catholic be a Democrat: How the Party I Loved Became the Enemy of my Religion' by David Carlin

Just as Hitler had more thugs, degenerates, perverts and homosexuals as his core insider support, Obama has similar
inside supporters, dept. czars who are overt communists, socialists, atheists, anti-Catholic, perverts(education czar is NAMBLA supporter),etc.

We have much to fear in a 'burning of the Reichstag' moment precisely because our Congress and Senate is
controlled by Democrats. As if Nationalized HealthCare and abolishment of 'freedom of conscious' in health care practice werent' enough.
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