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Old 17th August 2006, 08:56 PM
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I always get confused about Papal Infalibility, I remember being taught one time that only Dogma's are infallible?
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Old 17th August 2006, 11:24 PM
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The one holy Catholic Apostolic Church has only two types of authority:

I. Temporal Authority

The temporal authority of the Church is always fallible, never infallible.

II. Spiritual Authority, also called the Magisterium, is always infallible

1. Papal Infallibility

2. Ecumenical Councils, and any similar gatherings of the body of Bishops with the Pope (even if gathered only by means of communication over distance)

3. The Universal Magisterium (also called the ordinary and universal Magisterium)
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Old 17th August 2006, 11:31 PM
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Papal Infallibility occurs when all of the following 5 conditions are met (from Vatican I):

1. “the Roman Pontiff”
2. “speaks ex cathedra” (“that is, when in the discharge of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, and by virtue of his supreme apostolic authority….”)
3. “he defines”
4. “that a doctrine concerning faith or morals”
5. “must be held by the whole Church” [27]

The same 5 criteria can be worded differently (as in Vatican II)

1. “the Roman Pontiff”
2. “in virtue of his office, when as the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful, who confirms his brethren in their faith (cf. Lk 22:32),”
3. “by a definitive act, he proclaims”
4. “a doctrine of faith or morals” (“And this infallibility…in defining doctrine of faith and morals, extends as far as the deposit of revelation extends”)
5. “in accordance with revelation itself, which all are obliged to abide by and be in conformity with” [30]



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Old 18th August 2006, 05:00 PM
Climacus Areopagite Climacus Areopagite is offline
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And:

The Sacred Magisterium proceeds primarily from Sacred Tradition, and secondarily from Sacred Scripture.

Just as the Holy Spirit, proceeds primarily from the Father, and secondarily from the Son.

Isnt this neat! I learned this yesterday in Ron's article on Sacred Assent, Ordinary Assent, and Faithful Dissent.

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