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Old 27th October 2008, 07:23 PM
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I found Grucci's position (in the article below) encouraging.

Patchogue parade loses fireworks in 'Christmas' dispute
Newsday, NY - Oct 23, 2008

A disagreement over the name of a boat parade next month has ignited fireworks in Patchogue - but the result is likely to leave paradegoers with less sparkle than last year.

Brookhaven-based Fireworks by Grucci has decided to pull out of Patchogue's Nov. 23 parade because of the Greater Patchogue Foundation's decision to rename the event the "Patchogue Holiday Boat Parade." Last year the event, which has had several names in about 15 years of existence, was called "Patchogue Christmas Boat Parade."
Village officials said Grucci's decision means there will be no fireworks at this year's event, which will consist of about 20 decorated yachts - one carrying Santa Claus - chugging up the Patchogue River.

The Greater Patchogue Foundation, which hosts the event along with the Greater Patchogue Chamber of Commerce, decided to change the name because the use of "Christmas" garnered complaints from people who wanted the event to "be more inclusive," said Charles Baker, president of the chamber.

Grucci, which donated $5,000 in fireworks to last year's parade, will not assist with the event if "Christmas" is not in the title, said Grucci vice president Philip Butler.

"They are using all the themes of Christmas and plagiarizing all those themes and not using the name," said Butler, who has campaigned in the past against what he describes as the secularization of Christmas.
The Greater Patchogue Foundation's six-member board voted about a month ago to change the name, Baker said, in a vote that was not unanimous.

Baker added that the foundation agreed to change the name to "Christmas Parade" last year at Grucci's request.

"They wanted to buy the name, basically," he said, adding that the parade will still be "a joy to come see."

Controversies over holiday festivals are not new. Last year, some Long Beach residents complained that the Christmas tree the city placed next to a 20-foot-tall menorah in front of City Hall was too small, at 7 feet. The city eventually ordered a 20-foot tree.

Of Patchogue's lack of fireworks, Mayor Paul Pontieri said: "When I think about fireworks, I don't think about Christmas anyway - I think about the Fourth of July."
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Old 27th October 2008, 11:30 PM
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Here in Ireland we don't use the term 'holidays' to refer to Christmas but what we do have, unfortunately, along with the rest of the world, is the tendency to substitute 'Xmas' for 'Christmas'. And where is this most seen? On commercial adverts. And in many other places. One could lament for all eternity about the commercialisation of Christmas, and other liturgical feastdays to boot.

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The Greater Patchogue Foundation, which hosts the event along with the Greater Patchogue Chamber of Commerce, decided to change the name because the use of "Christmas" garnered complaints from people who wanted the event to "be more inclusive," said Charles Baker, president of the chamber.

Why is it that while non-Christians etc complain about the apparent 'exclusiveness' of Christian feastdays, nobody bats an eyelid when the likes of Hannukah or Ramadan roll around?
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