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Old 21st April 2007, 12:09 PM
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Default TS 3: Papal Infallibility

The three ways that the Magisterium can teach infallibly are:

1. Papal Infallibility
2. Solemn Definitions of Ecumenical Councils
3. Universal Magisterium

The Pope can:

1. teach infallibly (Sacred Magisterium)
2. teach non-infallibly (Ordinary Magisterium)
3. express theological opinion (not an act of the Magisterium)

The Pope teaches infallibly only when his teaching meets the criteria for an infallible papal teaching which criteria were infallibly defined by the First Vatican Council, and reiterated by the Second Vatican Council:

The teaching of the First Vatican Council on Papal Infallibility can be conveniently summed up with a list of criteria that a teaching must meet:

1. “the Roman Pontiff”
2. “speaks ex cathedra” (“that is, when in the discharge of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, and by virtue of his supreme apostolic authority….”)
3. “he defines”
4. “that a doctrine concerning faith or morals”
5. “must be held by the whole Church”

Many theologians combine one and two above, so that they list the same criteria, but with a different numbering.

Second Vatican Council reiterated the same criteria, but with different wording:

1. “the Roman Pontiff”
2. “in virtue of his office, when as the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful, who confirms his brethren in their faith (cf. Lk 22:32),”
3. “by a definitive act, he proclaims”
4. “a doctrine of faith or morals” (“And this infallibility…in defining doctrine of faith and morals, extends as far as the deposit of revelation extends”)
5. “in accordance with revelation itself, which all are obliged to abide by and be in conformity with”

As an exercise, write out the numbers 1. through 5. and quote the wording from the infallible papal defintion for the Assumption which meets the criteria for papal infallibility. You will find the definition in paragraph 44:
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pi...s-deus_en.html
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Old 21st April 2007, 02:57 PM
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Ok Ron,
How about:
1, Chap. 9;
2, Chap. 11;
3, Chap. 44;
4, Chap. 12;
5, Chap. 45+47.

1 was a bit of a quess because I would assume that the Roman Pontiff would sign the dogma. I never read this dogma before, great stuff! But Im glad Im not a theologian!
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Old 21st April 2007, 04:32 PM
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you misunderstood the exercise. After each number, quote the words that apply; this would typically be only a phrase or a single word, or a most a single sentence, not a chapter.
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Old 21st April 2007, 05:57 PM
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1......and by our own authority



2 to 3....we pronounce, declare, and define it to be a divinely revealed dogma:


4to5...Hence if anyone, which God forbid, should dare willfully to deny or to call into doubt that which we have defined, let him know that he has fallen away completely from the divine and Catholic Faith.

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Old 21st April 2007, 06:00 PM
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I'll give it a try.

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pi...s-deus_en.html

1.“the Roman Pontiff”
2. “speaks ex cathedra” (“that is, when in the discharge of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, and by virtue of his supreme apostolic authority….”)
3. “he defines”
4. “that a doctrine concerning faith or morals”
5. “must be held by the whole Church”

1. It's the Apostolic constitution of Pope Pius XII regarding a teaching of the Church, it's the pope speaking, first criteria is met.

2. "by the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ, of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and by our own authority", second criteria is met

3. "we pronounce, declare, and define it to be a divinely revealed dogma", third criteria is met

4. "that the Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory.", fourth criteria is met

5. "and for the joy and exultation of the entire Church" "may be brought to the attention of the universal Church", fifth criteria is met.


All five criteria for papal infallibility are met, this is an infallible teaching of the Catholic Church.
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Old 21st April 2007, 06:28 PM
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That was good Padraig.
Rob, even better.


Ron
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Old 21st April 2007, 06:37 PM
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Ha! I was never straight 'A's
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Old 21st April 2007, 09:46 PM
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Ron,

I would just add this as number five ( 5. “must be held by the whole Church”)to Rod reply: Hence if anyone, which God forbid, should dare willfully to deny or to call into doubt that which we have defined, let him know that he has fallen away completely from the divine and Catholic Faith.

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Old 21st April 2007, 10:04 PM
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Cecil,

Yes, you've improved on Rob's list by replacing what he had (which was not bad) with the anathema against anyone who rejects the teaching.


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