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Old 15th July 2007, 03:42 AM
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I was at another Catholic forum in which I was at the receiving end of some unkind remarks. I found this experience very painful and shocking. I cannot comprehend this behavior on a Catholic website and from fellow Catholics. I must be terribly naive. Should I not be surprised by this? Has anyone else experienced something similar? Does anyone have any have insights? Now I'm afraid to participate in any online groups.
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Old 15th July 2007, 12:18 PM
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This often happens in Catholic online discussion groups.
Myself and at least several other members have had similar experiences.


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Old 15th July 2007, 03:06 PM
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I had a strange experience recently on an online discussion group were I wished to talk about prayer and was basically shown the door because, they said, I was undervaluing the rosary. I didn't argue, I tried to explain a a little but seeing they had their minds made up and were hostile to me, I quickly left.

We are all sinners and it should not surprise us if this should be so. I recall joining a prayer group at one time and being bitterly verbally attacked at my very first session as soon as I opened my mouth. I suspect that this may have had something to do with the interior dynamics or politics of the group at that time, or of something unknown I was in total ignorance of.

Such things are inevitable. When you read Saint Paul you see this in action with some groups politiKing and following Apollos and some Paul and poor Saint Paul asking them all to settle down and behave themselves.

Paul was not impaled for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?� �For when one says: �I belong to Paul,� but another says: �I to Apollos,� are you not simply men? What, then, is Apollos? Yes, what is Paul? Ministers through whom you became believers, even as the Lord granted each one.��1�Cor. 1:13; 3:4, 5.

What I am inclined to do if I can is listen carefully to see if there is any virtue in such criticisms or attitudes, to ask myself if I myself am at fault. If not maybe, if the situation is intractable to move on. As Jesus said, if you arrive in one city and are not welcome simply go to another.

[b]Luke 10:10-11

10But when you enter a town and are not welcomed, go into its streets and say, 11'Even the dust of your town that sticks to our feet we wipe off against you. Yet be sure of this: The kingdom of God is near.'


Its unfortunate, but there you are. Sometimes I have the kinda edgy feeling that spiritual forces we know nothing about may be going on that we know nothing about. I notice one time Saint Paul being told by the Lord that no-one in that town would even try to harm him because they are in the Lords camp. The implication being that in other towns there might have been a lot in the bad angels camp. In any case in the lives of saints you can see them being used often as footballs by the very people who should have most known better.

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Old 16th July 2007, 11:58 AM
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I had a strange experience recently on an online discussion group were I wished to talk about prayer and was basically shown the door because, they said, I was undervaluing the rosary. I didn't argue, I tried to explain a a little but seeing they had their minds made up and were hostile to me, I quickly left.

We are all sinners and it should not surprise us if this should be so. I recall joining a prayer group at one time and being bitterly verbally attacked at my very first session as soon as I opened my mouth. I suspect that this may have had something to do with the interior dynamics or politics of the group at that time, or of something unknown I was in total ignorance of.

Such things are inevitable. When you read Saint Paul you see this in action with some groups politiKing and following Apollos and some Paul and poor Saint Paul asking them all to settle down and behave themselves.

Paul was not impaled for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?� �For when one says: �I belong to Paul,� but another says: �I to Apollos,� are you not simply men? What, then, is Apollos? Yes, what is Paul? Ministers through whom you became believers, even as the Lord granted each one.��1�Cor. 1:13; 3:4, 5.

What I am inclined to do if I can is listen carefully to see if there is any virtue in such criticisms or attitudes, to ask myself if I myself am at fault. If not maybe, if the situation is intractable to move on. As Jesus said, if you arrive in one city and are not welcome simply go to another.

[b]Luke 10:10-11

10But when you enter a town and are not welcomed, go into its streets and say, 11'Even the dust of your town that sticks to our feet we wipe off against you. Yet be sure of this: The kingdom of God is near.'


Its unfortunate, but there you are. Sometimes I have the kinda edgy feeling that spiritual forces we know nothing about may be going on that we know nothing about. I notice one time Saint Paul being told by the Lord that no-one in that town would even try to harm him because they are in the Lords camp. The implication being that in other towns there might have been a lot in the bad angels camp. In any case in the lives of saints you can see them being used often as footballs by the very people who should have most known better.

I believe that the devil, being most threatened by any attempts at holiness, loves to attack those attempts most fervently. As I have often said, Garabandal is a spiritual front line. While there I experienced the presence of evil almost as if the devil knows that that town will be part of his undoing.
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Old 16th July 2007, 01:53 PM
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Gabriel,
True that!!!! He also likes to make his presence quite known in Medjugorje.
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Old 16th July 2007, 02:48 PM
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Gabriel,
True that!!!! He also likes to make his presence quite known in Medjugorje.

perhaps we can say, Joey, that the devil betrays himself by his concern for these places!
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Old 19th July 2007, 01:12 PM
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At one point in time I was scouting out what Catholic message boards I should join. I was very quite, but continually asked myself if this message board would help me grow in holiness. At the end of my search, only this message board was left. I am too easily sucked into all the fickle talk about the craziest topics. For me, the biggest problem I see is the lack of humility. I have a hard enough time with humility, and am not aided too well when surrounded by prideful discussions.

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Old 19th July 2007, 10:05 PM
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... For me, the biggest problem I see is the lack of humility...
-jay

And charity....
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