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Old 14th October 2011, 01:58 PM
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[This passage concerns the temporal authority of the Pope and the Church. An Ecumenical Council does not have a greater authority than an individual Pope. But it must also be understood that every valid Council has the Pope as its head; without the Pope, no Council even exists. So a Council cannot oppose, overrule, or depose, the current valid Pope. For he is the head of that Council.]

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I don't believe the following will ever happen, but in the hypothetical case that a valid Pope falls into heresy, what would happen then?... would the Ecumenical Council be able to overrule him?... is there any Canon or Council that even considers this situation?
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Old 14th October 2011, 02:50 PM
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Ron,

I don't believe the following will ever happen, but in the hypothetical case that a valid Pope falls into heresy, what would happen then?... would the Ecumenical Council be able to overrule him?... is there any Canon or Council that even considers this situation?

The Pope can never fall into heresy:
http://www.catholicplanet.com/RCC/heresy-papacy.htm

A Council does not exist without a valid Pope at its head.

God does not permit any Pope to fall into heresy, because then the surety of the Faith would fail. Christ promised that the Pope would be the unfailing rock on which the Church would depend. So no Pope can ever fall into heresy, not even privately and interiorly.

When the Pope freely accepts his office, any heresies in his mind and heart are vanquished, by the grace of God and the cooperation of the free will of that man in freely accepting the office. If the Pope ever decides to freely reject the office, he can validly resign and thereafter possibly fall into heresy. So the gift of God to the Church that the Pope cannot fall into heresy is not contrary to free will.
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Old 14th October 2011, 02:55 PM
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Yes Ron,

I don't believe that a valid Pope could ever fall into heresy:

[Luke]
{22:31} And the Lord said: “Simon, Simon! Behold, Satan has asked for you, so that he may sift you like wheat.
{22:32} But I have prayed for you, so that your faith may not fail, and so that you, once converted, may confirm your brothers.”
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