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Old 7th February 2007, 11:17 AM
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There was a peculiar case around the time Saint Terese of Avila kicked off. A nun in Spain who was said to be a very great mystic, was said t have the stigmata and to levitate off the ground in prayer and to have very many extraordinary gifts. She was wonderfully respected throughout Spain with high nobility and Churchmen showing her the greatest marks of respect. Throngs came to visit her and people hung on her words. No-one ever suspected her of the least fraud. Anyway she confessed on her deathbed that she'd made the whole thing up. When asked how she's been able to stagemanage the miracles she said that she'd done a deal with Satan for them.

Anyway it frightened people a lot a put loads of folk of Contemplative Prayer which was very damaging and maybe the reason for what happened.

One study around the time of Saint Bernadette's apparitions showed some two hundred false claims to see Our Lady. So with apparitions being so common at the minute that theres a lot of low lives crawling out of the wood work.

However often I think theres a lot of damage being done by people who claim to be 'experts' in mysticism who really have not got a clue what they are talking about and who reject true apparitions like Medugorje. Like this gentleman here for example who rants and raves on without a clue what he is talking about:

http://www.unitypublishing.com/Appar...ysticPains.htm

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Old 7th February 2007, 01:41 PM
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And here's someone who knows what he's talking about:

http://www.spiritualitytoday.org/spi...433moreno.html
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Old 8th February 2007, 11:24 PM
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Ron,

By doing some research I got some TRUE apparitions which you could add to your list:
Litmanova – Slovakia, Girgenti-Malta, Zeitoun-Egypt and Kibeho–Rwanda

And some probably FALSE apparitions condemned by local bishops:

1999 Marpingen-Germany, 2001 Antonio di San Lazzaro in Capua, Salvatore Caputa from Mozanbano-Italy.

If there is something wrong do correct me.

God bless

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Old 9th February 2007, 12:14 AM
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Ron,

By doing some research I got some TRUE apparitions which you could add to your list:
Litmanova – Slovakia, Girgenti-Malta, Zeitoun-Egypt and Kibeho–Rwanda

And some probably FALSE apparitions condemned by local bishops:

1999 Marpingen-Germany, 2001 Antonio di San Lazzaro in Capua, Salvatore Caputa from Mozanbano-Italy.

Kibeho is on my false list as our lady of aokpe. I'm aware of some of the others, but there is not enough information for some of them. I don't have any objections, at this point in time, to Litmanova or Girgenti, or Zeitoun (but Zeitoun has no messages to evaluate).

I will look into the other ones.


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Old 10th February 2007, 09:43 PM
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Ron,

what is your position on the apparitions of Kerizinen and San Martino di Schio? I might have missed those if you have already inserted thme in your list.

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Old 11th February 2007, 01:18 AM
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I've now added of Kerizinen to the true list
and San Martino di Schio to the false list.


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Old 22nd February 2007, 12:43 PM
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Ron,

How about these claimed private apparitions and messages from Mary:

http://www.verginedegliultimitempi.com/

unfortunately I found just this page in English:

http://www.verginedegliultimitempi.com/inglese.htm

To me it seems a false private revelation although I find it difficult to judge.

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Old 22nd February 2007, 01:11 PM
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Ooops. Didn't realize that the local bishop has condemned the movement of "the virgin of the last times"

http://www.diocesidicapua.it/diocesi/new/new.htm

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Old 27th February 2007, 12:25 PM
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Ron,

I've got some claims of private revelations for you to evaluate and hopefully add to your list:

http://www.marysdivinedirection.com

http://www.holylove.org/

http://www.madonnaministry.net/

http://www.carmelita-delmis.org/english/

http://www.nanekielliott.com/messages.html

http://www.greatdreams.com/sacred/dire_jesus6.htm

http://www.visionsofjesuschrist.com/

http://www.roses.org/

http://www.messagesfromourblessedmother.com/

http://www.maryschildren.com/MC-Messages-FRS.htm

http://www.ourladyofthesierras.org/messages04.htm

I apologize if I have posted some claims that have been evaluated already on your list.

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Old 1st March 2007, 08:03 PM
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Ron,

Is this alleged private revelation true?

http://www.verginedegliultimitempi.com/inglese.htm


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