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Old 3rd October 2015, 11:23 PM
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Default the sins of Monsignor Krzysztof Charamsa

Monsignor Krzysztof Charamsa, a Catholic priest who worked for the CDF, has been fired, when he publicly admitted having a homosexual relationship with another man. The media is treating this man as a hero, as someone who is bravely and proudly challenging the Church's teaching on homosexuality (which society views as the wrong teaching).

From a Catholic point of view, Msgr. Charamsa is guilty of formal heresy, for rejecting the teaching of the Church that sex outside of marriage and that homosexual sex are each gravely immoral. He is automatically excommunicated for that sin. He is also guilty of grave sexual sins, since he has admitted having a sexual relationship with his "partner" or "boyfriend" Eduard (last name not given). And he is guilty of breaking his vow of celibacy to a severe extent -- many times over many years, without remorse.

"I came out," Charamsa said. "This is a very personal, difficult and tough decision in the Catholic church's homophobic world."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...ting/73278004/

He accuses the Church of homophobia, thereby rejecting Church teaching on homosexuality. He is also committing the sin of scandal. And he was attempting to influence the Synod by the timing of this announcement.

He seems very happy, and he has praise and respect from many other sinners. But God does not judge as the world judges. This man's eternal salvation is in grave danger.
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Old 4th October 2015, 10:31 AM
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Monsignor Krzysztof Charamsa, a Catholic priest who worked for the CDF, has been fired, when he publicly admitted having a homosexual relationship with another man. The media is treating this man as a hero, as someone who is bravely and proudly challenging the Church's teaching on homosexuality (which society views as the wrong teaching).

From a Catholic point of view, Msgr. Charamsa is guilty of formal heresy, for rejecting the teaching of the Church that sex outside of marriage and that homosexual sex are each gravely immoral. He is automatically excommunicated for that sin. He is also guilty of grave sexual sins, since he has admitted having a sexual relationship with his "partner" or "boyfriend" Eduard (last name not given). And he is guilty of breaking his vow of celibacy to a severe extent -- many times over many years, without remorse.

"I came out," Charamsa said. "This is a very personal, difficult and tough decision in the Catholic church's homophobic world."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...ting/73278004/

He accuses the Church of homophobia, thereby rejecting Church teaching on homosexuality. He is also committing the sin of scandal. And he was attempting to influence the Synod by the timing of this announcement.

He seems very happy, and he has praise and respect from many other sinners. But God does not judge as the world judges. This man's eternal salvation is in grave danger.

I have prayed for this Msgr. and others with Consecrated lives in similar need.
I ask everyone to pray now and to continue to pray for them all.

A beautiful, powerful prayer is the Divine Mercy conversion prayer:

"O Blood and Water!,
which gushed forth
from the Heart of Jesus,
as a fount of Mercy for us,
I trust in You."

Jesus promised that if this prayer for conversion is said with faith,
that it will always be answered.

It is a powerful remedy, given us by God.
Use it regularly for your loved ones and all around you who appear to need it.
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Old 4th October 2015, 12:03 PM
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People have free will. You can help them convert by prayer and self-denial, and by the example of a good life. But there is no guarantee.

The prayer is always answered in the sense that grace is offered to the sinner. But the response is according to free will.
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Old 4th October 2015, 12:18 PM
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msgr KC said: "It's time the Church opened its eyes and realised that offering gay believers total abstinence from a life of love is inhuman."

These words imply utter rejection of Church teaching against premarital sex and homosexual sex, and suggest support for gay marriage. That's heresy, scandal, and, in his own case, a violation of his vow of celibacy. So I'm pretty sure the Church is going to laicize him. And he is certainly excommunicated (latae sententiae) for heresy.

The Church needs to take stronger action against priests and theologians (he's both) who reject definitive teachings and lead others astray.
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