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Old 25th November 2011, 02:14 AM
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Mark,

I have watched Glenn Beck too, and have read and heard all about the Cloward Piven strategy. I think there definite parallels but believe it is nonsense. The reality is that FoxNews is about ratings, and while Obama is misguided I have a hard time believing that he is intentionally trying to sink our country. His hair went from black to grey for a reason... it is stress. Stress occurs when you care about something that is important and you are concerned with your decisions.

I am not saying I completely disagree with you, and you may be absolutely correct, but I think it may be a bit far fetched and conspiracy-based.

At the end though, I couldn't agree with you more. Pure socialism is poisonous to a society and breeds laziness and apathy.

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Old 25th November 2011, 01:25 PM
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Mark,

I have watched Glenn Beck too, and have read and heard all about the Cloward Piven strategy. I think there definite parallels but believe it is nonsense. The reality is that FoxNews is about ratings, and while Obama is misguided I have a hard time believing that he is intentionally trying to sink our country. His hair went from black to grey for a reason... it is stress. Stress occurs when you care about something that is important and you are concerned with your decisions.

I am not saying I completely disagree with you, and you may be absolutely correct, but I think it may be a bit far fetched and conspiracy-based.

At the end though, I couldn't agree with you more. Pure socialism is poisonous to a society and breeds laziness and apathy.

-Jay

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck> it's a duck. President Obama has not spent the last 25 years in a Church who's preachers are rock solid in Liberation Theology, because he likes their music. He has outspokenly been a big suporter of the Wall Street "99ers" who are shown day in and out as being revolutionary thugs for the most part. Oh, and grey hair can also come because of the stress he is taking from the far left in not moving fast enough for their causes.
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Old 25th November 2011, 02:00 PM
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fair enough....
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Old 25th November 2011, 02:47 PM
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The approach used in the U.S. includes some socialist elements, such as social safety net programs (social security, medicaid), some communist elements, such as workers striking, capitalism -- but moderated by government regulation, non-profit groups, etc.

I'm not sure that the US has incorporated any communist elements. Labor strikes pre-date Communism and pre-date the US. Strikes arose as an attempt to moderate the conditions imposed by employer and became more popular during the industrial revolution. They are a means for employees to band together, especially skilled ones, to influence the terms and conditions of employment. In modern times, they propagated in the West.

As I understand it, the hallmarks of Communism are State ownership of the means of production and one party rule. I don't think that labor strikes fall into either of these categories. And I'm not sure that the US has adopted any Communist elements. We spend decades trying to root out Communist infiltrators, the influence of which was likely over-exaggerated.
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Old 26th November 2011, 12:14 AM
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Obama Leaves God Out of Thanksgiving Address
http://refreshingnews9.blogspot.com/...nksgiving.html

Interesting how President Obama breaks traditional Presidential Christian prayer services and refernce to God at Thanksgiving, however, doesn't miss an opportunity to support Muslim prayer services.
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Old 26th November 2011, 03:45 AM
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Obama Leaves God Out of Thanksgiving Address
http://refreshingnews9.blogspot.com/...nksgiving.html

Interesting how President Obama breaks traditional Presidential Christian prayer services and refernce to God at Thanksgiving, however, doesn't miss an opportunity to support Muslim prayer services.

If I had a dollar each time Obama ignored or avoided the mention or reference to God, I would not need social security anytime in my life.
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