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Old 23rd November 2012, 10:06 PM
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Default Salvation theology

If members are interested, we can have a discussion on Catholic salvation theology: who is saved and how.
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Old 24th November 2012, 12:52 AM
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Ron, this is a topic I would be interested in learning more about. Because of school my time is very limited, but I will participate in the discussion when I can.
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Old 24th November 2012, 01:59 AM
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I am interested.
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Old 24th November 2012, 02:11 PM
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That would be an interesting topic.
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Old 24th November 2012, 02:35 PM
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Default salvation theology, first point

There are two fundamental cases to consider, concerning salvation:
1. the person who dies in a state of grace
2. the person who dies in a state of actual mortal sin (i.e. unrepentant from one or more actual mortal sins)

Pope Pius XII: “Above all, the state of grace is absolutely necessary at the moment of death; without it, salvation and supernatural happiness — the beatific vision of God — are impossible.” (Address to Midwives, 21.a.)

Anyone who dies in a state of grace will have eternal life in Heaven, perhaps after a temporary stay in Purgatory.

Pope Benedict XII: “By this Constitution which is to remain in force forever, we, with apostolic authority, define the following…. Moreover, we define that according to the general disposition of God, the souls of those who die in actual mortal sin go down into hell immediately after death and there suffer the pain of hell.” (On the Beatific Vision of God, in the year 1336)

Anyone who dies in a state of unrepentant actual mortal sin will have eternal punishment in Hell.
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Old 24th November 2012, 04:15 PM
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Ron, can a person enter into a state of grace knowing that his end is near, despite being cavalier about his spiritual life earlier...that is in comparison to someone who strives on a daily basis to be good, without seeming to achieve the piety of saints, and finally on his deathbed is still regretful that he wasnt able to be what all his spiritual instruction and learning showed him he could have been!
I mean is the first person just as likely to be as blessed in grace as the second?
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