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Old 16th December 2010, 01:29 PM
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...nd-court_N.htm

"Ireland's constitutional ban on abortion violates the rights of pregnant women to receive proper medical care in life-threatening cases, the European Court of Human Rights ruled Thursday in a judgment that harshly criticized Ireland's long inaction on the issue."

Courts are now saying that abortion must be allowed to protect the life of the mother, if the pregnancy causes a potentially fatal threat to the mother's health, or if the mother is threatening to commit suicide out of emotional distress at the pregnancy.

The Catholic teaching is that direct abortion is always gravely immoral, and never justified by intention or circumstances. But indirect abortion is sometimes moral, as when the prenatal's life cannot be saved and the action directly treats a medical disorder in the mother, and only indirectly results in the death of the prenatal.

Catholic moral teaching does not permit abortion whenever there is a threat to the health or life of the mother, but only in the case where the abortion is indirect, and the act is nothing other than a direct treatment of the disease of the mother (e.g. cancer).
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Old 16th December 2010, 01:43 PM
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Here is an example of a direct abortion:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/religio...htm?csp=34news

"The bishop has focused on the hospital since it came to light earlier this year that doctors there terminated the pregnancy of a young mother. The medical staff said she was near death with from pulmonary hypertension, a condition that limits the ability of the heart and lungs to function. The condition is made worse by hormones produced by the uterus during pregnancy. The surgery was done last November with the approval of the hospital's ethics committee including Sister Margaret McBride."

The pregnancy threatened the life of the mother by putting additional stress on her cardiovascular system, thereby threatening her life. But the action in this case was to directly kill the prenatal. So the act is direct abortion, which is gravely immoral.

Notice that the Hospital ethics committee and a nun administrator approved of this act, claiming it is indirect abortion. There is a grave problem in the Church today on the subject of ethics.

Pope John Paul II: "In fact, a new situation has come about within the Christian community itself, which has experienced the spread of numerous doubts and objections of a human and psychological, social and cultural, religious and even properly theological nature, with regard to the Church's moral teachings. It is no longer a matter of limited and occasional dissent, but of an overall and systematic calling into question of traditional moral doctrine, on the basis of certain anthropological and ethical presuppositions."

"At the root of these presuppositions is the more or less obvious influence of currents of thought which end by detaching human freedom from its essential and constitutive relationship to truth. Thus the traditional doctrine regarding the natural law, and the universality and the permanent validity of its precepts, is rejected; certain of the Church's moral teachings are found simply unacceptable; and the Magisterium itself is considered capable of intervening in matters of morality only in order to 'exhort consciences' and to 'propose values', in the light of which each individual will independently make his or her decisions and life choices."

"In particular, note should be taken of the lack of harmony between the traditional response of the Church and certain theological positions, encountered even in Seminaries and in Faculties of Theology, with regard to questions of the greatest importance for the Church and for the life of faith of Christians, as well as for the life of society itself."

Veritatis Splendor, n. 4.
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