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Old 25th April 2008, 08:35 PM
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In Genesis we are told that God made man in his image. It does not say that man is a COMPLETE image of God or that man is reflective of all that God is. Adam was not "happy" (for lack of a better word) because nothing in creation was like him or complemented him. So God took a rib from Adam and fashioned woman. In my interpretation (which may quite possibly be completely off the mark) Eve completes Adam in two ways: 1) because she is fashioned from his rib; and 2) because the partial image of God that Adam was longed for some part of God that was not already in him. In that respect, we can say that man AND woman (all human beings) are made in God's image, and so God, though beyond the limitations of gender, is among other things both male and female.

Feminism misses the mark on a number of levels, but it is particularly distasteful when it manifests itself in those who are consecrated.
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Old 26th April 2008, 09:19 PM
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"Why is God a Trinity?"

Because God exists.
God's existence is the Father.
The Father's understanding of himself is the Son.
The Love between the Father and the Son is the Spirit.


Isn't God's existence also Son and Spirit?
Can we say in truth God's existence is only the Father?
Isn't God's existence the same like God's nature that is equal in every person?
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Old 26th April 2008, 09:24 PM
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This is a figure used to describe the Trinity.
God's existence is the Father.
The Father's understanding of himself is the Son.
The Love between the Father and the Son is the Spirit.

All Three Persons have the same Divine Nature,
so of course each and all are all that God is.
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Old 13th April 2012, 10:29 AM
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Ron,

in mix religion forums, many times i often see the question : how does the person speak s to each other which particular verse is for the Father Son and holy Spirit.

Non trinitarian cites the verse

Deut 32:39 and Exodus 20: 3

who among the persons spoken these passages they asked.

perhaps they are heading to these passage to disprove the Divinity of Cjrist
[John 17]
{17:1} Jesus said these things, and then, lifting up his eyes toward heaven, he said: “Father, the hour has arrived: glorify your Son, so that your Son may glorify you,
{17:2} just as you have given authority over all flesh to him, so that he may give eternal life to all those whom you have given to him.
{17:3} And this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

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Old 13th April 2012, 12:20 PM
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Exodus 20:3
You shall not have strange gods before me.

Deut 32:39
See that I am alone, and there is no other god beside me.

{17:3} And this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

The Christian belief is that there is only one God, one Divine Nature, but that Nature consists of Three Persons. The Three Persons are the One Nature, and each Person possesses the Nature entirely (not just part of the nature); this is termed 'consubstantial'. That is why we say, in the new translation of the Creed at Mass: consubstantial with the Father.

The attributes of the Nature are not divided among the Persons, as if the Spirit were the love of God, but not the Father or Son, or as if the Son were the knowledge of God, but not the Father or the Spirit. Instead each Person possesses the whole Divine Nature.

What distinguishes the Persons from one another is their relationship to one another, particularly procession. The Father does not proceed. The Son proceeds only from the Father. The Spirit proceeds primarily from the Father and secondarily from the Son.

So the passages from Ex and Deut indicating one God are of course correct. God is one. But in the NT, God revealed that He is also Three.

The passage from John has Jesus speaking to the Father, saying 'the only true God' because each Person possesses the whole Nature. Jesus as two natures, the Divine Nature and a human nature. And so the verse adds: "and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." The Father sends the Son to become incarnate, because the Son proceeds from the Father.

This is not an indication that Jesus is not God, but rather that each Person is co-equal as God. The Father is God, possessing the whole Divine Nature. He sends the Son, who also possesses the whole Divine Nature.

Also, Scripture often uses language in a non-technical, non-theological manner. So it is not unusual for a passage to require some explanation in order for it to make sense in the manner of speaking that we use today.
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