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Old 7th May 2010, 12:43 PM
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Are there any questions so far, or any unclear points, on the first three chapters of The Catechism of Catholic Ethics?
http://www.catechism.cc/ethics/index.htm

At the beginning of Veritatis Splendor, the Pope laments serious problems in the Church, "the lack of harmony between the traditional response of the Church and certain theological positions, encountered even in Seminaries and in Faculties of Theology, with regard to questions of the greatest importance for the Church and for the life of faith of Christians, as well as for the life of society itself." VS, n. 4.

What is the solution to this problem? A return to the basic principles on which the moral teachings of the Church are based, especially the three fonts of morality.
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Old 7th May 2010, 03:38 PM
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Ron,

Since this approach is indeed the true and correct one, why is it so widely ignored among theologians today?
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Old 7th May 2010, 03:52 PM
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Since this approach is indeed the true and correct one, why is it so widely ignored among theologians today?

There are a number of reasons, as I see it.

It has been popular in recent decades for theologians to set aside the traditional response of the Church in all matters of theology, and to seek new approaches and new ideas. This is perhaps partly due to the influence of secular society, which lacks moral absolutes and values new ideas over old ideas. In moral theology, this results in new attempted approaches to morality which lack the fundamentals.

Suppose there is a fork in the road. One road leads along a well-known route to a well-known destination. If you don't like the destination, then you might decide to take the other road, the one whose destination is unknown. In moral theology, many theologians and priests realize that if you take the traditional approach to morality, the result will be conclusions that are unacceptable to them, to most Catholics, and to secular society. So the new route is preferred.

They know that the traditional approach will not give them the conclusions that they desire, so they look for new approaches. In some cases, the conclusion is chosen first, and then the theology used to reach that conclusion becomes a rationalization, not in accord with Catholic teaching.

But even with the traditional approach, theologians and priests tend to be influenced more by the majority opinion more than by fundamental principles. So if the Magisterium does not speak often enough on morals, then some erroneous conclusion can accumulate and spread.

There are perhaps other reasons, such as the reluctance of the lay faithful to study theology, widespread ignorance among lay teachers in parishes and dioceses, and other problems.
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Old 7th May 2010, 08:27 PM
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We've been blessed to be part of this website (even the non-members readers) that helps us to learn a lot about our Faith and Church, I particularly have learned a lot here but the majority of the so called 'Catholics' who don't have a grown Faith, just think that going to Mass every Sunday and then adhere to what secular society says is ok.

This is what I just read today about what Dr. Jane Smith says regarding the disconnection of many Catholics with our Church teaching:

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On the reasons why many Catholics today are disconnected from Church teaching, the noted professor offered two explanations. “One, is that the influence of the culture is just overwhelming – the prominence of the media and the slant of the media on everything. Catholics are going to Church at most, once on Sunday but they're watching TV and reading the media hours and hours and hours of every week.”

“So what's going to have more influence on them?” she asked. “Their Church or their culture?”

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/ne...ption-article/

I think that Catholic school should not permit teachers that promote ideas contrary to what the Church teachers.

It would be ideal if teachers in schools not only teach with words but with deeds also.

Catholic Theology and Moral Theology classes should be mandatory in schools so our children would have a better understanding about our faith.

I know that there are many children, young adults and adults that when they go to have their first communion, then when they go to to Mass on Sundays, they have no idea that the Host they are going to receive is in fact the Body of Christ. They are not really aware about that. They just stand up to receive the Host because other people do it and if they want to. This is a worldwide problem.
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Old 7th May 2010, 08:33 PM
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One of the truths I have concluded is that while truth (doctrines) can develop, they can never change. If a puppy becomes a dog that is development, but if a puppy becomes a cat, that is change.

I say this, because thorughout history to many intellectuals, theologians, clergy, Catholic faithful etc.., seem to think they have better answers then the saints who have gone before them. Instead of developing a truth or a Church doctrine they change it or ignore it.

Intellectual honesty is not something found often today, whether it is in the Church or society. Progressivism in both the Church and society is all about change without truth. It has been eating at both at an aggressive pace for the past 100 years and both are now suffering the end result.
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