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Old 19th December 2010, 10:35 PM
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Michael Voris at RealCatholicTV (on the website and on YouTube) does not present orthodox Catholic teaching.

Michael Voris, S.T.B., seems to be the main teacher at RealCatholicTV. The S.T.B. after his name signifies that he has a Bachelors degree in Sacred Theology.

This post will review his video entitled 'The Jews'.

Voris begins his talk on the Jews by saying that anti-Semitism only refers to prejudice against the Jews as an ethnic group, not as a religion. Why make this distinction? Perhaps it is because he realizes that he will be accused of anti-Semitism for the claims that he makes in this video. Now I'm not saying that Voris is guilty of anti-Semitism, that he prejudiced against the Jews because of their ethnicity, but rather that he is guilty of anti-Judaism, for his false and accusatory opinion of the Jewish Faith that is incompatible with Catholic teaching. So he makes a useful distintion.

Voris claims, about the Jewish Faith in ancient times: "they had a Temple and offered sacrifice; the entire religion was focused on this one singular point…. Once however the Romans were done with their work, the Jews as the religion of the Covenant no longer existed…. No temple, no sacrifices, no priesthood, no Judaism. What replaced it in history is what has come down to us today: Rabbinical Judaism. This is not the Judaism of the Covenant. It is a man-made religion." (YouTube video, The Jews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY1GG0dyU9Y)

<B>This claim by Voris is contrary to the teaching of Jesus in the Gospels about the Jewish Faith.</B>

[Matthew]
{5:17} Do not think that I have come to loosen the law or the prophets. I have not come to loosen, but to fulfill.
{5:18} Amen I say to you, certainly, until heaven and earth pass away, not one iota, not one dot shall pass away from the law, until all is done.

The Jewish Faith is based on the law and the prophets, not on animal sacrifices at the Temple. This basis will not pass away as long as heaven and earth have not passed away.

{7:12} Therefore, all things whatsoever that you wish that men would do to you, do so also to them. For this is the law and the prophets.

The law and the prophets teach the love of neighbor, which has not passed away, and which Jews today still teach and practice.

{22:36} "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?"
{22:37} Jesus said to him: " 'You shall love the Lord your God from all your heart, and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
{22:38} This is the greatest and first commandment.
{22:39} But the second is similar to it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'
{22:40} On these two commandments the entire law depends, and also the prophets."

The law and the prophets are about love of God and neighbor. The Jews today still teach and practice the love of God and neighbor. Therefore, their religion remains a true religion, founded on the same unchanging commandments, as entrusted to them from ancient times in Divine Revelation.

Voris errs by reducing the Jewish Faith to one aspect of Jewish discipline, animal sacrifices at the Temple, ignoring the teachings of faith and morals. Voris claims that when the Romans destroyed the Temple of Jerusalem in the first century A.D., the Jewish Faith ceased to exist, and that what replaced the Jewish Faith was wholely a man-made religion.

<B>This claim by Voris is contrary to the teaching of the Catholic Church on Judaism.</B>

Neither the Catechism of the Catholic Church (cf. n. 839, 840), nor Vatican II (cf. Nostra Aetate), nor any magisterial documents, nor any Saints or Fathers or Doctors of the Church ever taught that the Jewish religion changed into a man-made religion when the Temple was destroyed. The basis for the Jewish Faith -- practiced by Saints Zechariah and Elizabeth, by Saints Joachim and Ann, by Jesus and the Virgin Mary -- is the truths of Divine Revelation, including the eternal moral law. These truths have not changed, and so the Jewish Faith, despite not explicitly acknowledging Jesus as the Messiah, continues to worship the one true God and to worship Christ implicitly, by love, faith, hope, and all the virtues, by the symbols that represent Christ in the Old Testament, and by looking forward do the arrival of the Messiah.

This address by the holy father, Pope Benedict XVI, on the occasion of his visit to the synagogue of Rome, plainly shows that Judaism is not a false religion.
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/be...nagoga_en.html

Voris' claim that Judaism is merely a man-made religion is based on his false claim that the religion depended on animal sacrifices at the Temple of Jerusalem. What if the Jews rebuild the Temple and resume animal sacrifices? Would this mean that the religion became a true religion again and ceased to be man-made? Voris' position is foolish, because it in effect implies that animal sacrifice in a temple constitutes the basis for true religion. To the contrary, the basis for the Jewish Faith is, just as it always has been, the teachings of the law and the prophets.

Voris further claims that the Old Covenant "was abandoned by the overwhelming number of people called to it." He implies that, since the first century A.D., the Jews have not followed the Old Covenant.

To the contrary, many Jews today and in past centuries faithful follow the teachings of the law and the prophets. The truth of that teaching has not changed. The basis of the Old Covenant was not animal sacrifices, but the law and the prophets. And the Jews today continue to worship the one true God, knowing Him by both the light of reason and the Divine Revelation of the Old Testament. Their religion continues to be a true religion established by God.

Voris' position on the Jewish Faith is a serious doctrinal error. He presents his errors in a very accessible video on YouTube as if he were teaching basic facts. He offers no theology books or articles to support his claims. He offers no theological arguments. He does not cite magisterial documents, nor Scripture, nor any Fathers, Saints, or Doctors of the Church. He cannot do so because his claims are incompatible with the teachings of Tradition, Scripture, Magisterium.

RealCatholicTV does not offer orthodox Catholic teaching.
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Old 22nd December 2010, 02:26 AM
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Here is a good blog post about RealCatholicTV over at Vox Nova
http://vox-nova.com/2010/01/29/virtu...l-catholic-tv/
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Old 22nd December 2010, 05:58 AM
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Many of my sabbath observant, Chasidic Orthodox Jewish friends beleive that when the Messiah comes and the new temple is built, they will go back to the practices of old. Including sacrificing etc. In Israel there are groups that are keeping garments and items used in these rituals for the future. Remember these rituals and practices MUST be done in Jerusalem at the Temple Mount where the Dome of the Rock (a Muslim Mosque) currently resides. They cant happen just anywhere. Just because the Jews CANT perform their reituals, does not make it a man made religion, they beleive they are living under oppression by the current state of things.

The only other thing I agree with is the 2 definitions of Jew. People that hate Jews hate them because they are Jew, not because of their religious belief. Besides, very very few Jews practice the orthodox religion as closely as they can, minus the things they cannot due to the current power in Israel. Being a Jew is a Birth Rite. According to the Jews, if your mother was a Jew than you are a Jew regardless of what religion you practice.
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How do the quotes of these Popes fit into the analysis of the practice of Judaism after the New Covenant?

Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, 1441:
“The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and teaches that the matter pertaining to the law of the Old Testament, the Mosaic law, which are divided into ceremonies, sacred rites, sacrifices, and sacraments, because they were established to signify something in the future, although they were suited to the divine worship at that time, after our Lord’s coming had been signified by them, ceased, and the sacraments of the New Testament began; and that whoever, even after the passion, placed hope in these matters of the law and submitted himself to them as necessary for salvation, as if faith in Christ could not save without them, sinned mortally. Yet it does not deny that after the passion of Christ up to the promulgation of the Gospel they could have been observed until they were believed to be in no way necessary for salvation; but after the promulgation of the Gospel it asserts that they cannot be observed without the loss of eternal salvation. All, therefore, who after that time [the promulgation of the Gospel] observe circumcision and the Sabbath and the other requirements of the law, the holy Roman Church declares alien to the Christian faith and not in the least fit to participate in eternal salvation.”[c]

Pope Benedict XIV, Ex Quo Primum (# 61), March 1, 1756:
“The first consideration is that the ceremonies of the Mosaic Law were abrogated by the coming of Christ and that they can no longer be observed without sin after the promulgation of the Gospel.”[ci]
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The OT disciplines are no longer in force. That is the meaning of both those quotes. But the Jewish Faith is not mere discipline. They have Scripture which teaches the moral law and also truth about God. So their religion continues to be a true religion.
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Here is a statement issued bu the Archdiocese of Detroit.

Statement regarding Real Catholic TV and its name

Issued: Dec. 15, 2011

http://www.aodonline.org/AODOnline/N...18610/RCTV.htm
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There are a number of serious doctrinal errors in Michael Voris' teachings. But I think the Bishop should teach and correct these errors, rather than simply forbidding him to use the word 'Catholic.'
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