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Old 26th May 2011, 04:35 PM
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Ruth Kolpack, was fired by the Bishop of her diocese from her position as 'pastoral associate' and religious eduction instructor.
http://www.jsonline.com/features/rel...121752014.html

"Kolpack was fired after allegations surfaced that she, among other things, encouraged non-Catholics to take communion in Catholic churches, believes in women's ordination and believes she can consecrate the Eucharist, a role reserved for ordained clergy."

My question is, How was she ever hired in the first place? These are not new views on her part. Her master's thesis, 2003 say this about the document Ordinatio Sacerdotalis (JP2's letter on reserving priestly ordination to men)

'Is there "religious evil" in this document? According to the definition of "religious evil" on previous pages, there are the evils of absolute truth claims and literalism.'
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13441413/Ruth-Kolpack-Thesis

Her argument is basically circular; she assumes her conclusion in her premises. In other words, she evaluates anything in Tradition, Scripture, or Magisterium on this topic using her own assumptions and conclusions -- rejects anything that would conflict with those assumptions and conclusions, and therefore, of course, she arrives at the conclusion that she chose from the beginning.
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Old 27th May 2011, 04:13 AM
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the present church is like a shepherd who hires wolves to care for sheep and then wonders why sheep are missing....
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Old 13th June 2011, 11:57 AM
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Here is a story from NPR, promoting the idea of women priests:
http://www.npr.org/2011/06/12/137102...h-at-the-altar

I notice several interesting points. First, the article falsely claims that these women have not been excommunicated. They are all automatically excommunicated for heresy and for schism, and there is also a specific Canon in Church law which excommunicates them, and a number of Bishops have spoken out publicly saying that they are excommunicated.

Second, the article plainly takes sides on the issue and promotes women priests in Catholicism.

Third, the pictures show only women; no male priests are involved at all. They say that they want equality, but really, then want an all women priesthood. They say that the all male priesthood is evil. But they have no problem with an all woman priesthood.

Fourth, the one woman was influenced to think that women can be priests: "Her mother had an altar at home, and when Mayers was a child, she would stand in front of it, wearing a cloth as her vestments and saying the Latin Mass." This suggests strongly that girls should not be altar servers, lest they think that they can be priests.
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radical feminists who want to impose their absurd and arrogant agenda on the Church are one of the most destructive elements facing our Church today....many nuns follow this thinking. One nun who came to my parish a few years ago said God could be a "She" and, when a courageous parishoner criticized her as a heretic, the then-pastor publicly wondered how such a criticism was "charitable to a guest". Makes me ill.

Between homosexual sympathizers on one side and radical feminists on the other, only God can save this Church...
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radical feminists who want to impose their absurd and arrogant agenda on the Church are one of the most destructive elements facing our Church today....many nuns follow this thinking. One nun who came to my parish a few years ago said God could be a "She" and, when a courageous parishoner criticized her as a heretic, the then-pastor publicly wondered how such a criticism was "charitable to a guest". Makes me ill.

Between homosexual sympathizers on one side and radical feminists on the other, only God can save this Church...

They have no problem criticizing Bishops, Cardinals the Pope, even harshly. But if they themselves are criticized, it is 'uncharitable'.

Jesus himself criticized false teachers:

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{23:13} So then: Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! For you close the kingdom of heaven before men. For you yourselves do not enter, and those who are entering, you would not permit to enter.
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