conservative schism

[Ron Conte]

It's not the document, but the teachings in it that are non-infallible.

The Cardinals have a right to disagree, to a limited extent. They do NOT have the right to speak and act as if their understanding were absolute, nor as if they had a role to correct the Pope or to judge his teachings.

[Keva]

Originally Posted by Keva

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There are some messages in Anguera speaking of "Order of Malta" as future betrayers of catholic church and about something or someone coming out of that order as an enemy. That cardinal Burke is in Order of Malta...

Here they go...

https://www.google.hr/url?sa=t&rct=j...uSnu24R07fr7SQ


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[Ron Conte]

I can't find any messages mentioning an "order of Malta".
I only found this message:
"Suffering will come to Cyprus, and Malta will shed tears for its children."

Can you link to a message that says "Order of Malta" or something similar?

[Keva]

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Message number 2950. - "An order will be given by an order..."

Message number 2952. - "An order will come from Malta that will shake the church and make the faithful suffer..."

https://www.google.hr/url?sa=t&rct=j...iBrwfkT_Mjioeg


I know i have read other similar messages on some different sites, but i cant find them now from this bunch of messages...


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[Ron Conte]

That could refer to the approaching schism. It does seem that the Order of Malta is in grave danger of falling into schism. They are led by the schismatic Cardinal Burke, and they refused the authority of the Pope over their Order's decision on who would lead them.

[Contrition]

THE FINAL BATTLE: Meaning behind Fatima Apparition's final battle prediction revealed

Sister Lucia dos Santos, one of the three children who witnessed the Marian apparitions at Fatima, died in 2005. But before her death, she predicted that the final battle between Christ and Satan would be over marriage and the family.


http://www.catholic.org/news/hf/fait...y.php?id=72823

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Ron Conte

I can't find any messages mentioning an "order of Malta".
I only found this message:
"Suffering will come to Cyprus, and Malta will shed tears for its children."

Can you link to a message that says "Order of Malta" or something similar?

Ron where did you find this message? Is it reliable source?

[Ron Conte]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Ron where did you find this message? Is it reliable source?

at the official site for the apparitions:
http://www.apelosurgentes.com.br/en-...gens/ano/2005/

My take is that it refers to WW3, when the Islamic extremists attack Europe.

[Keva]

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https://www.google.hr/url?sa=t&sourc...Xs9dxj4PmCxeJi


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[Ron Conte]

The story at that link contains falsehoods. Pope John XXII did not teach or commit heresy, and he did not "back down" when confronted by a group of theologians. The theological question at issue had not yet been decided definitively by the Magisterium, so the Pope did not sin by proposing a minority opinion on the topic.