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Old 3rd February 2017, 08:49 PM
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Hi Ron,

I'm discussing objective (material) vs actual (formal) mortal sin with fellow Catholics. I've been asked where in the CCC or any Magisterial document is this explained.

I found # 1857, 1859, 1860 of the CCC. Do you know of any other Magisterial document this is taught?
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Hi Ron,

I'm discussing objective (material) vs actual (formal) mortal sin with fellow Catholics. I've been asked where in the CCC or any Magisterial document is this explained.

I found # 1857, 1859, 1860 of the CCC. Do you know of any other Magisterial document this is taught?

See my post:
https://ronconte.wordpress.com/2015/...objective-sin/

It's discussed in many documents, but not usually in an easy to understand formula that can be concisely quoted. But it is a well-understood distinction inherent to the infallible teachings of Florence, Lyons II, which use the term "actual mortal sin". But different wordings are used in different documents.

Objective or material sin is often called "grave matter". Reconciliation and Penance speaks of "the gravity of sin's objective content". That document also says:

"Here we have the core of the church's traditional teaching, which was reiterated frequently and vigorously during the recent synod. The synod in fact not only reaffirmed the teaching of the Council of Trent concerning the existence and nature of mortal and venial sins,(95) but it also recalled that mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent. It must be added-as was likewise done at the synod-that some sins are intrinsically grave and mortal by reason of their matter. That is, there exist acts which, per se and in themselves, independently of circumstances, are always seriously wrong by reason of their object. These acts, if carried out with sufficient awareness and freedom, are always gravely sinful.(96)"
http://w2.vatican.va/content/john-pa...enitentia.html
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